CWQXF - Castellum AB (CWQXF) Q1 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

2023-04-26 14:24:06 ET

Castellum AB (CWQXF)

Q1 2023 Earnings Conference Call

April 26, 2023, 3:00 AM ET

Company Participants

Joacim Sjoberg - President and Chief Executive Officer

Jens Andersson - Chief Financial Officer

Anna-Karin Nyman - Communications Director

Conference Call Participants

Lars Norrby - SEB

Markus Henriksson - ABG Sundal Collier

Stefan Andersson - Danske Bank

Fredric Cyon - Carnegie

Presentation

Operator

Welcome to Castellum Q1 Report 2023. For the first part of the conference call, the participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions]

Now, I will hand the conference over to CEO, Joacim Sjoberg; and CFO, Jens Andersson. Please go ahead.

Joacim Sjoberg

Good morning, everyone. This is Joacim Sjoberg, CEO of Castellum. I'm glad to have so many of you participating here in this Q1 report. This has been somewhat of a slow quarter, and we see increased income, thanks to our indexed agreements. Our tenants show good ability to pay and we have small losses during the quarter.

We have increased cost of approximately SEK140 million, of which 70% are directly linked to secured electricity prices this quarter. And those secured prices will decrease in Q2. We have also some slight increases in property taxes during the quarter. The net operating income [Technical Difficulty] and we are writing down the values by approximately 3.9% due to the increased yield requirements.

So Castellum in brief. You all know pretty much everything there is to know about Castellum, but we are one of the largest listed commercial property companies in the Nordics. We are present in growth cities in Sweden and in the very dynamic regions of Copenhagen and Helsinki. And through our Nordic strategy, we are also represented in Norway by Entra, mainly in the Oslo region.

And as you can see, as of this quarter, we have a property value of approximately SEK174 billion, including Entra. That comprises 741 properties and we have a yearly contract volume -- value of approximately SEK10 billion. That's the amount of rent that we can invoice as per now.

So Castellum's tenants, it represents a fairly good cross-section of Swedish business life and the public sector. We have an average lease duration of 3.9 years compared to 3.6 years for the last -- for the same quarter last year.

We have, as you can see, a good mix of customers and the property categories give all an extra stability in these uncertain times.

So I think I hand over to Jens.

Jens Andersson

Good morning, everyone. As you see on the slide, we've had a long positive trend of net leasing. However, in Q1, negative with minus SEK62 million and should be compared with the net leasing in Q1 '22 that was positive SEK25 million.

However, continued stable demand from our tenants, contracts that take somewhat longer to negotiate. Continued negative effects from the ongoing war. Higher interest rates can be expected, but do not show clearly in the rolling 12-month figures. Too early to draw long-term conclusions. And important to mention is that the 12-month rolling figure is positive and SEK84 million. No clear trend, but tenants takes smaller space, rather a combination where some expand and other decrease space.

Bankruptcies are up SEK19 million for the first quarter compared with SEK8 million the full year 2022. Higher numbers cannot be ruled out in the future, but all natural in a weaker economy. Numbers are partially explained by a few larger contracts being terminated mostly in Stockholm and the increasing bankruptcies. Also, our communicated strategy to reduce projects will have a negative effect over time.

Looking at the key figures. Currently, loan-to-value is above our new financial policy of 40%, although well below our creditors' requirements. The suggested rights issue will strengthen the loan-to-value and ICR. Higher interest rates and expiring interest derivatives will, on the other hand, put continued downward pressure.

Good appetite from the banks, but we need to preserve our unencumbered asset base, currently at 51%. We will need to keep it above 45% long-term in order to keep especially Moody's update. Loan margins from the banks continued to be relatively stable during the first quarter of 2023. 56% of our loan portfolio is secured with swap derivatives or fixed contracts with a duration of at least one year.

Debt capital markets still relatively liquid with high spread, even though some real estate names have been able to issue below average spreads. However, we still favour bank financing for the time being.

Looking at our largest ongoing projects, they will add a lot of rental income during the year, and they will also add a lot of duration to our WAULT. The 12 largest projects, all above SEK100 million, have an occupancy rate of 75%. Key tenants in the four largest projects, Swedish Police, an animal hospital, Northvolt and National Court Administration in Jonkoping. All four are 100% pre-leased.

Castellum's total investment volume for ongoing major projects amounts to approximately SEK3.6 billion, of which approximately SEK1.6 billion remains to be invested. We have completed two of our largest projects Sjustjarnan, E.ON's headquarter, and Godsfinkan National Courts Administration in Malmo during the first quarter with an annual rental value of approximately SEK170 million.

Another five larger ongoing projects will be completed during 2023 and will generate another approximately SEK110 million excluding Gotaland 9, which have been sold, but not yet transferred to the new owner. Total investment budget 2023 is SEK4.6 billion, including CapEx and average lease term is above 11 years in these ongoing projects.

Joacim Sjoberg

All right. So, as Jens mentioned, we have a couple of fantastic projects that we have sort of handed over to tenants and two of the largest that were completed in Q1 were the E.ON, the energy company's headquarter in Malmo. And then we have the -- a huge new Court Administration building in -- also in Malmo. Both are almost fully let, and they will add, as Jens mentioned, almost SEK170 million of rental value. In total, there will be SEK280 million in total rental value for the larger projects this year.

If you -- we take great pride in our projects, of course, and one that was also noticed by others was the winner in the Swedish Competition, New Building Awards, which made us very proud, and that was GreenHaus in Helsingborg. It's a beautiful building. If you're ever in Helsingborg, you must go see it. It's voted to be the best building by the industry. It was completed in, sorry, I was just saying that it was completed in last part of 2022 and total investments were SEK330 million. It added a rental value of SEK22 million and the tenants are AFRY, which is a large consultancy firm.

So another project is in [indiscernible]. That's a place where we have made investments of SEK180 million about. We have a micro office co-working and we have [Infor] (ph) in that building. We also have an ongoing project to be completed during this year. That is in Gateway Save in Gothenburg where SEEL will take over a building that we've invested almost SEK300 million and it will generate a rental value of SEK21 million.

And finally we have an ongoing project in Vasteras in Finnslatten, where the tenant Northvolt will take over a building and move in during this year. Total investments, SEK445 million and the rental value is SEK31 million on that one. Jens?

Jens Andersson

And then looking at property values that came down this quarter as well with some 3.9%. All properties are valued internally each quarter in a discounted cash flow model agreed with our auditors. Property values, as Sjoberg said, came down and external valuation were also down in Q1 on all properties and were in line with the expectations and follow the same development.

Difference between internal and external valuations were some 1.7%, which historically is a low figure, mostly explained by somewhat lower internal cost assumptions. Valuations yields up with 15 bps, mainly due to higher interest rates and are now at 5.16%. And as you know, interest rates and yields correlate strongly with one another, however, have a very obvious lag effect.

And with the interest rates coming up, yields will follow. However, these high interest rates I can just speculate now. But looking at the development, we've seen, it's likely to see that the interest rates will come down eventually when inflation comes under control.

And if we look at the latest forecast from the National Institute of Economic Research in Sweden, three months target is expected to go down to 1.75% already in 2024. But of course, it's not the prediction from our side, it is just the way it usually goes. When things go up, they come down at some stage.

Joacim Sjoberg

All right. So, as you all know, the sustainability work that we do at Castellum is at the core of our business and has been so for quite a while. We have continued the installation of solar panels and we are now at 12% of the electricity used by us are produced by our own solar installations. We have lowered the energy consumption by 5% on the like-for-like assets. And we have, in total, installed 80 solar panels, which brings us closer to the 100 goal that we have set out for ourselves. 46% of the properties in terms of square meters are sustainability certified, which gives us a very solid base if ever the EU initiatives on energy classification would come into effect. Right.

Jens Andersson

Now back to financing. Average cost of debt, 2.8% compared to 2.6% end of 2022, mainly driven by increasing underlying interest rates, but still on a reasonably low level, thanks to especially good bank relationships, but also a good portion of subcontracts.

Looking at the debt maturity structure, we have some SEK25 billion of bonds expiring in the coming three years. Available cash and unutilized revolving credit facilities amounting to SEK14.2 billion. Bank loans are prolonged on good terms and we are able to increase them, which will be part of the solution should that debt capital markets continue to be illiquid. Including rights issue and property divestments, all bonds could potentially be paid the coming three years, reducing project investments and no dividend this year will free up further funds.

Our expectation is although that the debt capital market recovers within a reasonable time period. Nonetheless, no one can say for sure. Therefore, we need to prepare for worse times in order to safeguard BAA3 rating and in the long run, strive for an upgrade.

And then looking at the rights issue. Sadly, not much to report. So no new information. However, the rights issue is expected to be concluded during this quarter, as previously stated. Purpose of the rights issue is to maintain our credit rating, repay debt and free up liquidity to complete ongoing projects. Q2 will be published on the 14th of July and is therefore expected to include the rights issue in the numbers.

Joacim Sjoberg

So when we look at what we foresee in the future, we have an outlook that brings us to focus on the core business, especially leasing and customer relations. We are now, of course, working hard on the rights issue to be completed, as Jens mentioned, in the current quarter. We will improve our financial positions through the rights issue and continued deleverage. And we are also adapting to the new macro environment and that means that we will be net sellers of assets in 2023.

So that more or less concludes the presentation that we were intended to give.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Lars Norrby from SEB. Please go ahead. The next question comes from Lars Norrby from SEB. Please go ahead.

Lars Norrby

Good morning, Joacim. Good morning, Jens. Can you hear me?

Joacim Sjoberg

Yes.

Lars Norrby

Okay, very good. I have a question, first of all, about CPI indexation and current market rents. Obviously, you had a big boost from CPI indexation starting from this quarter, the first quarter. And it's fair to assume that we will have some kind of help from CPI indexation also in the first quarter of next year? How does -- if you look at market rents, are market rents following CPI indexation or if there's a discrepancy between those two?

Joacim Sjoberg

I can give a general question, and then Jens can fill in the details, if any. But no, we don't see a super strong link. It's more a link between the asset's location and quality, as always, rather than ongoing discussions necessarily being increased by 10% or so. But we, on the other hand, don't see any diminishing demand, especially on the better quality products. So there's no immediate or direct link. It's still more linked to the asset's locations, but we are, of course, getting help from the indexations.

Lars Norrby

But let's say you have a contract that is due to be negotiated during this year, would you get -- would you manage to get anything above indexation? Or will it be in line with indexation? Or is it -- will it have somewhat of a negative effect on a renegotiation?

Joacim Sjoberg

I would be -- I can't really tell because it's really up to the hard work that's being done by our leasing colleagues and the managers of each asset. So it really depends on the asset, whether it has a strong demand, et cetera. But of course, we will get help from the fact that the underlying CPI is growing.

Lars Norrby

Okay, thank you. I'll leave the floor to someone else.

Operator

The next question comes from Markus Henriksson from ABG Sundal Collier. Please go ahead.

Markus Henriksson

Thank you and good morning. Few questions from me. First, on property values, they decline around 3.9% here in Q1. Could you give us a bit more insight into property segments and geographies that are down the most and the least?

Jens Andersson

Okay. I think we can see no really clear trend between the segments. What could possibly be mentioned is that the Kungsleden portfolio was externally valued possibly at the peak of a business cycle, and we do not externally value all properties each quarter. So if we look at which properties were affected the most, one could say that Kungsleden is possibly a part of the explanation at least.

Markus Henriksson

Thank you. That's very clear. Then your project investment declined from SEK1.9 billion in Q4 to around SEK700 million. Now in Q1, you have earlier stated that we will see a much lower project tempo, but what's your view here for the full year 2023?

Jens Andersson

Well, I mean, it will follow pretty much what we have presented earlier. So you cannot do a conclusion, based upon the SEK700 million. Q1 is -- I mean, it really depends on what type of projects you have ongoing. And so I think we stick to our prediction and the budget of SEK4.6 billion. It can be slightly below and it can be slightly above.

Markus Henriksson

Thank you. Then I see that you divested around SEK300 million here in Q1, and we have a previous LOI of a total of SEK1.8 billion. You mentioned here that you will be a net seller, but could you give us anything more here on potential divestments in 2023 based on the communicated LOIs?

Jens Andersson

We cannot communicate on the LOI. However, as Joacim said previously, we aim to be a net seller this year, and we will revert as soon as we have additional information to present to the market.

Markus Henriksson

Fair enough. Thank you. Those were my questions.

Operator

Please state your name and company. Please go ahead.

Stefan Andersson

Hello. Stefan Andersson, Danske Bank. A couple of questions for me, starting with the Kungsleden deal. We tend to forget a little bit. A couple of quarters ago, we talked quite a lot about the synergies that were going to be retrieved from integrating that. Could you maybe update us a little bit about where you are there, if there -- what was the outcome and what is left to retrieve when it comes to that work?

Jens Andersson

It's a very tricky question to answer in the prevailing business climate. Some of the things that was supposed to happen earlier, might take longer, especially on the financial side. When we look at 2022, we are in line with our expectations on saving costs, but how this will develop over time, it's a bit tricky to say what is what. And I think we will have to revert on that question as well when we have more detailed information to give.

Stefan Andersson

Okay. But it's not like we should expect a lot of improvements or cost cuttings ahead? That's really what you're saying?

Jens Andersson

I mean we have communicated a plan to cut costs. However, in the prevailing market, where we see that costs have been going up, to a large extent, explained by the energy contracts bought in September last year, that will not affect the coming quarters. But looking at the organization, I think that this is something that will take some time to realize and we don't have a clear number to present. So therefore, maybe you shouldn't expect too major -- any major changes in the short-term at least. And we will come back on that one if we have more information to give.

Stefan Andersson

Okay. Thank you. Then just a question on the projects that came on during the Q1 there. Did you have any -- how much rent did you have from that -- the SEK168 million you presented? How much were affecting the quarter and what month did you go on stream with that one?

Jens Andersson

To a very minor extent.

Stefan Andersson

Perfect. And then a small thing, but you talked about external valuations. Did I interpret correctly, if I understood that, the 1.7% valuation difference, was that the external values had a lower value than yours? Or was that -- did I misunderstand that?

Jens Andersson

Yes, that is correct.

Stefan Andersson

Thank you. And then the final question, you talked a little bit about preparing for the future and divest -- net divestment of properties. Thinking a little bit about the Entra shares, could you maybe elaborate a little bit on your view on that position? Could that be something that you would be willing to sell?

Jens Andersson

I think maybe that is something for, Joacim, to answer if he's -- Joacim is out traveling and have been calling in. So therefore I will answer this question as well. I mean, it's a tricky one. It's -- I mean it's in our strategy. Norway is a very important part of it, and it's not up for sale. The book value is high compared to what we could actually sell it for and the effect on our key figures will not be significant if we sold them. But it's not on the table and not something we are discussing.

Stefan Andersson

Perfect. That's all my questions. Thank you so very much.

Operator

The next question comes from Fredric Cyon from Carnegie. Please go ahead.

Fredric Cyon

Good morning. Yeah, a bunch of questions from my side. So starting off with the value changes in the quarter, they were 3%, which is similar to what you had in the fourth quarter. What were the new findings during Q1 versus what you did at the end of Q4?

Jens Andersson

I mean you're referring to the continued downward shift in values. I mean it's mainly driven by the valuation yield increase. And I think it's healthy to see that our internal valuations to a very, very large extent have been confirmed by Cushman & Wakefield and Forum Fastighetsekonomi. So I think 80% has been valued by Cushman & Wakefield. And I mean it is what it is.

It's -- if you look at the value development over the last 10 years, as we show in the graph, I mean, we've had considerable value growth. And now when interest rate goes up, valuation yields follow. And as I was trying to state, when interest rates come down again, which is expected by at least some large players in the market, the trend will most likely shift upwards again.

Fredric Cyon

And comparing your changes in the values now in the fourth and first quarter, it looks very, very little from what peers are doing. And you're using the same valuations firms? How is it possible that there is such a large difference in your assessment and others?

Jens Andersson

I think we are using a very prudent methodology and it has been confirmed by external operators. And I cannot really comment on how others are doing.

Fredric Cyon

And looking at the components of the unrealized value changes in the quarter, it's just purely driven by increasing yields. It's also lower cash flow expectations, but also reversal of total gains. What has happened?

Jens Andersson

But mainly a yield shift.

Fredric Cyon

Yeah, but beyond the component -- when it comes to cash flow on projects, what's new -- what affects you in the valuation on those two lines?

Jens Andersson

Insignificant, I would say. It's a valuation yield shift. That is the key driver here.

Fredric Cyon

And then moving over to the NOI margin. You guided towards that Q1 will be weak, just like Q4 was. If we go back a couple of years, Kungsleden and Castellum both sides NOI margins of plus 70%. You are now rolling at -- rolling 12-month NOI margin of about 64%. That's a very large drop. Is the worst behind you? Do you see the trade towards 70%, in let's say, 2024 or get used to a much, much lower efficiency in your public -- in relation to rent?

Jens Andersson

No, I don't think -- I mean it is largely explained by increasing costs that we expect to come down. Look at what we have communicated regarding energy costs. We see that they have come down quite a lot since we bought these energy contracts in September last year. And we also see other costs are coming down. But we really don't do forecasts here and therefore, let's see how things develop, but there are one-off effects that should be taken into account when predicting how we will perform in future.

Fredric Cyon

I fully understand that you don't want to do forecast, but if you have a significant deterioration, it might be worth mentioning kind of what has gone wrong? What do you think will be the drivers of getting back to where you used to be? But are you seeing that the hedges -- energy hedges that hit you during Q4 and now Q1, that had a negative impact from that line is behind us, and we're getting back to kind of normal path in terms of profitability?

Jens Andersson

Yes.

Fredric Cyon

Perfect. And then regarding Stefan's question on the contribution from the two major Malmo projects. You said they were minor in the first quarter. Will there be a full contribution from those? Or are there step-ups in the rental income during 2023?

Jens Andersson

I mean usually when you sign a contract, you give out discount the first year and -- but the P&L effect will be seen to the full effect in next year because they moved in during the quarter. So the full effect will not be seen this year.

Fredric Cyon

Okay. Very clear. And two final questions. On Entra, there's a view on the book value. Has there been any discussions on write-downs due to the very large difference between the book value and the share price of Entra?

Jens Andersson

I mean, they are very comfortable with our model, and we do impairment tests every quarter, and we have nothing negative to report.

Fredric Cyon

Okay. And then final question on the net leasing. It was weak in the quarter, but very much driven by Stockholm. Is there a trend that you're witnessing Stockholm being under more pressure than your other regions or is it more related to individual contracts?

Jens Andersson

I mean it's difficult to say we cannot see a long-term clear trend. However, Stockholm was a bit more negatively affected by COVID and this might be some sort of a continued development thereafter. First COVID and then the war in Ukraine. This combination might have some effect, but it's still very early to say.

Fredric Cyon

Okay. Thank you, Jens.

Joacim Sjoberg

It should also be noted that we see fluctuations on the net leasing. And to some extent, those that have affected Stockholm are now somewhat expected, and it's more or less of a coincidence that they be terminated in the same quarter. So, as Jens said, it's too early to draw any major conclusions. But we are keeping a close eye on the net leasing, and that's what we are steering the entire organization towards.

Fredric Cyon

Thank you for your insights. And those were all my questions.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] There are no more questions at this time. So I hand the conference back to the speakers for any closing comments.

Anna-Karin Nyman

There is also some questions coming in by our webcast in the chat. I will read them out loud and answer some of them. There is one question from Andreas Lithander. Seeing as you will be the net seller during 2023, how much do you see yourself selling during the year? And how much are you willing to divest? Is there any of our -- your assets that you will not consider selling. Joacim?

Joacim Sjoberg

Yes. Well, we can't communicate a target on this. We are working constantly within Kristina Sawjani's transaction team to optimize our portfolio. So there's important optimization work going on. And in addition to that, we have the sort of ambition to deleverage. That means that we are considering offers, and we are actively disposing assets.

But it's a tricky market and things tend to take longer time. There's nothing that is not for sale, but we will only sell assets that we consider to be either peaking in their valuations or deemed to be not strategic to us. And that, of course, includes whether we believe that the value we -- or the prices that we are offered is reasonable or not.

Anna-Karin Nyman

Thank you. Next question, Robert is asking. Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. In relation to debt maturities, do you consider a new issue of bond in euro? Jens?

Jens Andersson

Yes. Of course, we consider issuing euro and safe bonds all the time. But in the current market with spreads way above what we can finance ourselves with Nordic banks, it's not really reasonable for us to go out in the debt capital market.

In addition, the liquidity is rather weak and therefore, not in the short run, at least, you shouldn't expect us to enter the market. But we follow the situation closely. And if our spreads come down considerably after the rights issue, I think it's fair to say that we are definitely interested in the debt capital market.

Anna-Karin Nyman

Okay. Another question. It's about debt emission. Simon Mortensen. You stated during the bond maturity chart, it may be aided with no dividend this year. Does this mean no dividend is planned for 2023 -- no DPS is planned for 2023?

Jens Andersson

No such decisions have been taken.

Anna-Karin Nyman

Can you please clarify when the right issue will be concluded? Will it be the prior to Q2 reporting in July with final details in Q2 reporting or will the terms be announced during Q2?

Jens Andersson

Yes, the latter. I mean, we have said that the rights issue is expected to be concluded in Q2.

Anna-Karin Nyman

Okay. That was all the questions that we had. Thank you, everyone, for listening. That was all for today.

Joacim Sjoberg

Thank you, everyone. Thank you.

Jens Andersson

Thanks.

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