ALEX - Alexander & Baldwin Inc. (ALEX) CEO Chris Benjamin on Q2 2022 Results - Earnings Call Transcript
Alexander & Baldwin, Inc. (ALEX)
Q2 2022 Earnings Conference Call
July 28, 2022, 05:00 PM ET
Company Participants
Steve Swett - Investor Relations
Chris Benjamin - President and Chief Executive Officer
Lance Parker - Chief Operating Officer
Brett Brown - Chief Financial Officer
Clayton Chun - Chief Accounting Officer
Conference Call Participants
Alexander Goldfarb - Piper Sandler
Sheila McGrath - Evercore ISI
Presentation
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Alexander & Baldwin Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, that this event is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Steve Swett, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Steve Swett
Thank you, aloha, and welcome to our call to discuss Alexander & Baldwin’s second quarter 2022 earnings. With me today for our earnings call are A&B’s President and Chief Executive Officer, Chris Benjamin; our Chief Operating Officer, Lance Parker; and our Chief Financial Officer, Brett Brown. Clayton Chun, Chief Accounting Officer is also present and will be available for the Q&A portion of the call.
Before we commence, please note that statements in this call and presentation that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that involve a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by the relevant forward-looking statements.
These forward-looking statements include, but are not limited to, statements regarding possible or assumed future results of operations, business strategies, growth opportunities and competitive positions, as well as the rapidly changing challenges with and the company’s plans and responses to the COVID-19 pandemic and related economic disruptions.
Such forward-looking statements speak only as of the date the statements were made and are not guarantees of future performance. Forward-looking statements are subject to a risks, uncertainties, assumptions and other factors that could cause actual results and the timing of certain events to differ materially from those expressed in or implied by the forward-looking statements.
These factors include, but are not limited to, prevailing market conditions and other factors related to the company’s REIT status and the company’s business, risks associated with the COVID-19 and its impacts on the company’s businesses, results of operations, liquidity and financial condition, and evaluation of alternatives by the company related to its Materials & Construction business, as well as other factors discussed in the company’s most recent Form 10-K, Form 10-Q and other filings with the SEC.
The information in this call and presentation should be evaluated in light of these important risks. We do not undertake any obligation to update the company’s forward-looking statements. Management will be referring to non-GAAP financial measures during our call today. Included in the appendix of today’s presentation slides is a statement regarding our use of non-GAAP measures and reconciliations. Slides from this presentation are available for download at the Investors section of our website at www.alexanderbaldwin.com.
Chris will open up today’s presentation with a strategic update. He will then turn the presentation over to Lance for an update on real estate operations, and then Brett will discuss financial matters. Chris will return for some closing remarks, and then we will open it up for your questions.
With that, let me turn it over to Chris.
Chris Benjamin
Thanks Steve and good afternoon to our listeners. The second quarter was another outstanding quarter for us and our involvement. Our portfolio of high quality, retail, industrial and ground lease properties produced excellent results and we ended the quarter with leased occupancy of 94.6% approaching pre pandemic levels. Beyond the continued stellar CRE performance, we meaningfully advanced our strategic agenda during the quarter as we closed on the sale of approximately 18,900 acres of noncore land holdings on Kaua‘i. I'm pleased that we're now on the verge of successfully completing our strategic transformation to a pure commercial real estate company. I'll provide a high level summary of our results and then Lance and Brett will provide more details on our portfolio performance, the non-core land sale transaction and our financials.
Commercial Real Estate revenue in the second quarter increased 5.8% over the prior year quarter. Portfolio NOI was up 4.5% and same store NOI grew by 4.4%. Core FFO was up 9.7% and core FFO per share was up 12%. As I mentioned, we ended the quarter at 94.6% leased occupancy just 30 basis points below our occupancy at the end of the first quarter of 2020. Our industrial portfolio had leased occupancy of 98.4%, up 60 basis points from one year ago, and our retail portfolio occupancy was 93.1% up 80 basis points from last year.
During the second quarter, we signed 76 leases for about 174,000 square feet of gross leasable area and captured blended rent spreads of 6.2% for comparable leases. We continue to benefit from strong underlying economic growth across the state. Domestic visitor arrivals for each of the first six months of 2022 have exceeded pre pandemic levels, and we're up over 11% year-to-date compared to 2019.
Additionally, international visitor arrivals are increasing, which should provide incremental economic benefits. While our portfolio is community based and not heavily dependent on tourist activity, the resurgence in Hawaii Tourism is providing a broad benefit to Hawaii's economy, with the state unemployment rate down to 4.3% for June 2022, an improvement of over 18 percentage points from the peak nearly two years ago.
Inflationary pressures and economic uncertainty are potential concerns. But so far we've not seen significant impacts across our business. Our portfolio Performance remains strong due to excellent leasing activity. Interest in Hawaii real estate remains robust, also allowing us to make significant progress on our non-core land sales, including the 18,900 acre transaction we closed during the second quarter.
On the acquisition front, the market remains tight, but we continue to pursue opportunities. With a strong balance sheet and local market presence we have historically been able to take advantage of market dislocations. So this environment may play to our strengths. But we are maintaining our investment discipline.
Financial results in our materials and construction segment were below our expectations for the quarter primarily due to the timing of key projects COVID impacts on our workforce and inflationary cost pressure. Still we made good progress in ramping up paving operations late in the quarter, and securing new work and this positions us well for the balance of the year. Given the improvements made over the past few years and operations cost management and bidding, our great progress with simplification, and the fact that Grace Pacific is now the loan significant non-core asset we still own, our board has authorized a formal marketing process to sell Grace. This is a compelling business with a long history, strong market position and many competitive advantages. We hope to find a strategic buyer for whom Grace is a more natural fit. We will provide updates as we progress but cannot comment further on the process or expectations at this time.
With that, I'll now turn the call over to our Chief Operating Officer Lance Parker to review our recent CRE highlights and land sales activity. Lance?
Lance Parker
Thank you Chris and Aloha everyone. Beginning with operations, our CRE portfolio continued to perform exceptionally well in the second quarter. Same Store NOI was up 4.4% year-over-year reflecting improved tenant performance and collections. We executed 76 leases for approximately 174,000 square feet during the second quarter and achieved increased rent spreads of 11.9% for new leases and 5.4% for renewal leases.
Some of the significant leases executed during the period for two leases at our P&L warehouse that sustained the 100% leased occupancy of the industrial property and a total of 12 leases related to Properties in Kaua‘i, including a coffee Park shopping center.
Overall, the same store least occupancy at quarter end was 94.6% up 60 basis points from 12 months earlier. Over the same period, same store, retail leased occupancy was up 80 basis points to 93.1% and same store industrial leased occupancy was up 50 basis points to 98.3%.
With regard to growth, our team is active across our target markets on Oahu, Maui, Hawaii Island and Kaua‘i and are pursuing opportunities in our preferred asset classes. Expectations are changing between buyers and sellers around market performance and pricing. And we believe our deep market knowledge and long standing relationships will enable us to uncover opportunities and realize long term value. We remain disciplined in our approach and believe our ample liquidity will provide advantages as the market shifts.
In the meantime, we continue to pursue internal opportunities such as development or redevelopment, where yields remain attractive and we can better control timing. Redevelopment efforts at a coffee Park Shopping Center are nearing completion toward the fourth quarter of 2022 Target stabilization. At Manoa marketplace, which we introduced last quarter as the next property in our redevelopment pipeline construction work is set to commence soon to improve the visitor experience at this well located Neighborhood Center while incorporating sustainable design and building elements. Into the topic of sustainable properties, construction of the 1.3 megawatt rooftop solar installation at pro Highland Center continues on schedule toward completion in September 2022.
Turning to our land sales in the second quarter, we closed on the sale of approximately 18,900 acres of non-core land holdings comprised primarily of conservation in agricultural land on Kaua‘i, as well as 100% of the company's ownership interest in the 100% ownership interest in McBryde Resources Inc. the operator of hydroelectric power facilities on the island. This was great execution on another large step towards completing our simplification efforts. Brett will provide more details on the financial aspects of this significant transaction. We remain in active discussions with interested buyers on our remaining non-core land holdings and expect to make additional monetization progress this year.
I'll now turn the call over to Brett for financial details. Brett?
Brett Brown
Thanks Lance and hello everyone. Starting with our financial results, for the second quarter, we recorded net income of $4 million or $0.05 per diluted share. FFO of $13.2 million or $0.18 per diluted share, and Core FFO of $20.3 million, or $0.28 per diluted share. As a note, each of these metrics for 2022 benefited from reserved reversals of approximately $1.8 million or $0.02 per share in the second quarter of 2022 compared to $1.6 million, and also $0.02 per share in the second quarter of 2021.
On a year-to-date basis, net income was $14.5 million or $0.20 per diluted share, FFO of $32.9 million, or $0.45 per diluted share, and core FFO of $41.1 million, or $0.56 per diluted share. Each of these metrics for 2022 benefited from reserve reversals of approximately $3.8 million, or $0.05 per share in the first half of 2022 compared to $2.8 million, or $0.04 per share in the first half of 2021.
For additional details on our results, including comparisons to 2021 results, please see our earnings release and supplemental information package. Let me now turn to our commercial real estate segment. For the second quarter, CRE revenues increased by 5.8%, or $2.5 billion over the prior year quarter to $45.8 million. And NOI increased by 4.5% or $1.3 million to $29.8 million compared to the same period last year. This increase from the year ago quarter again reflects the overall recovery of our tenants which resulted in improved rent collections, including both current and prior year rents prior period rents.
Second quarter same store NOI increased 4.4% or $1.3 million over the prior year quarter to $29.7 million. Our land Operations Business generated adjusted EBITDA of $52.8 million in the second quarter of 2022 associated with the sale of approximately 18,900 acres of non-core landholding on Kaua‘i including the company's 100% ownership interest in 100% ownership interest in McBryde Resources is a $54 million gain on disposal of assets in the period.
On a go-forward basis related to this sale, we will lose approximately $3 million to $4 million of annualized operating profit, although this income was scheduled to run off in the relative near term. Another benefit of this sale worth mentioning is the substantial reduction of long term liabilities and potential risks. So this was another very important step in simplifying and focusing our company. Our materials and construction segment posted modest results for the second quarter with a $600,000 operating loss and positive adjusted EBITDA of $700,000. This compares to a $1.9 million operating loss and positive $700,000 of adjusted EBITDA in the second quarter of 2021.
As Chris noted, our board has decided to commence a process to sell Grace Pacific to a more natural owner. Once the process is fully underway, we will provide more updates on timing. But at this point, we are pleased to officially commit to completing this important step as quickly and efficiently as possible.
For the second quarter of 2022, general administrative expenses were $13.2 million, compared to $12.4 million in the second quarter of 2021 and in line with our budget. According to our balance sheet and liquidity metrics, at June 30th 2022, our total debt outstanding was nearly $476 million. And we had total liquidity of more than $532 million, including over $33 million of cash and full capacity on our $500 million credit facility.
With the sale of the noncore land holdings on Kaua‘i including our interest in McBride Resources, portion of those sale proceeds was used to pay down the remaining $50 million balance on our credit facility. With that we also terminated the interest rate swap on that balance, which was set to mature in February 2023 recognizing a half a million dollar gain on termination. At June 30, 99% of our debt was effectively fixed, with the only floating rate debt being the GLP asphalt credit line which had $5.1 million outstanding at quarter end.
Also at quarter end, net debt to trailing 12 months consolidated adjusted EBITDA was 2.4 times. Excluding the one-time non-core monetization and MNC impairment impact net-debt-to consolidated adjusted EBITDA would have been five times. And finally, our debt to total market capitalization stood at 26.7% at quarter end. We feel we are in an enviable position of having low leverage and ample liquidity and with no material debt maturing for nearly two years. I also want to remind everyone, as I've mentioned on prior calls, we have terminated our defined benefit pension plans.
In the second quarter, we incurred pretax settlement charges of $73.7 million, with an associated $18.3 million income tax benefit and funded $20 million in $29 million in cash, which was well below our expected range communicated on prior calls. Within the land operations segment during the second quarter, the net impact of the pension settlement charges and the gain on the non-core land holdings sale was a $1.4 million loss, essentially an offset of two meaningful steps toward our simplification. With respect to our dividend, our board recently declared a third quarter 2022 dividend of $0.22 per share, an increase of 10% or $0.02 per share payable on October 5, 2022 to shareholders of record as the close of business on September 19 2022. This third consecutive quarterly dividend increase reflects strong second quarter commercial real estate results and expected performance for the remainder of 2022.
Finally turning to guidance, we are raising our full year 2022 guidance a second time with core FFO per share to a new range of $1.05 per share to $1.11 per share from the prior range of $1.01 per share to $1.07 [Ph] per share. This increase was due to an improvement in our outlook for commercial real estate same store NOI growth. We now expect CRE same store NOI growth within a range of 4% to 6% from our prior range of 2% to 4%. CRE same store NOI growth excluding prior year reserve reversals is expected within a range of 3.5% to 5.5% from our prior range of 3% to 5%.
With that, I'll turn the call over to Chris for his closing remarks.
Chris Benjamin
Thanks a lot, Brett. The second quarter results as well as the outlook that Brett just summarized demonstrate the quality and the strength of our commercial real estate portfolio with high occupancy robust leasing activity and strong rent spreads in the portfolio. We completed the meaningful sale during the quarter of non-core land holdings and the McBryde Resources business on Kaua‘i. While those lands generated some nice non-REIT income, as Brett described, they also will still head significant liabilities associated with them, and the potential for meaningful income loss as power purchase agreements expire in the future. So that transaction was an important part of our simplification process and further strengthens our balance sheet.
With the sale and the sale of Kaka‘ako the last year, the successful completion of our strategic transformation is insight. Grace Pacific is now our loan significant non-core asset and with the board's decision to commence the sales process for Grace, our goal of being a focus commercial real estate company is near. We have the balance sheet and the available liquidity to pursue acquisitions as they arise and market dislocations have historically played to our strengths.
On the ESGs on the ESG front, we will begin renewable energy generation within our commercial portfolio in September, when we complete a 1.3 megawatt solar PV installation at Pearl Highlands. We've been producing renewable energy for over a century through our agricultural and land operations. But we're now focused on ensuring that our commercial real estate portfolio is both a source of generating renewable energy and is very energy efficient in terms of its consumption of energy. We are analyzing TV expansion opportunities at additional properties and are actively advancing other environmental and social initiatives.
I'm pleased to announce that our third annual corporate responsibility report will be published in August, highlighting our efforts and progress on ESG matters. In closing, I'm extremely proud of our team and their efforts to maintain strong performance amid our pivot to a more focused platform, which will provide us with the opportunity to grow into the future and create value for our shareholders while living up to our mission as partners for Hawaii.
With that, we'll now open the call to your questions.
Question-and-Answer Session
Operator
We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question today will come from Alexander Goldfarb with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.
Alexander Goldfarb
Hey, I think it's still morning out there. It's just been early, busy earnings season. So one awesome that you guys are finally going to put up the for sale sign on Grace. So that big, a little bummed that you sold the power plant was pretty cool to cover a company that had its own, waterfall power plant, but is what it is. So maybe just taking the recycling of proceeds. As you guys sell Grace, and you've sold a lot of non to income producing assets? How do we think about the FFO impact in the near term? And then the time it takes to redeploy that capital into FFO generating assets.
Brett Brown
So hey, Alex, it’s Brett. Thank you for the comments there. And yes, it is still morning here. So the initial use of proceeds, as I mentioned, is paying down debt that we're able, we had a very limited amount of floating rate debt. And then I did have the balance on the revolver I was able to pay down. But then in the near term, we're obviously looking to deploy into our, our core sectors of retail, industrial, and land, ground leases, as well as internal growth opportunities. And so we'll continue to deploy it as we're able, and I think we'll announce what we what we can when we see it, but I don't know, Lance, if you want to get into any opportunities that you're seeing on the investment side.
Lance Parker
Yes, I'll go ahead and take it. I mean, sort of implicit in that question, Alex is maybe what are we seeing in the market? And I would just say, previously, we referenced sort of a annual run rate of deploying, $50 million to $75 million per year in growth capital. I will say on the acquisition front, our investment team continues to be very busy in uncovering opportunities. We're getting a lot of good looks in the marketplace, but also say we're seeing some pricing, dislocation and so we remain very disciplined in that regard. But then, of course, we've also got our internal growth opportunities. And what I would say is between actual spend this year on redevelopment things like Manoa Marketplace, as well as pipeline opportunities with tenants that we are in conversations with either for redevelopment within our retail portfolio, or build a suit within our industrial land holdings, we do have a pipeline sufficient to meet that growth expenditure.
Alexander Goldfarb
So just big picture, as we think about at let's say, this would complete by year end, Brett how much earnings would come out, like what would FFO be impacted by in a full year basis. And then it sounds like, the time to redeploy is probably something like 2024, just, you know, at the time that you find something, buy it and close, whatever. So I'm just trying to figure out the short term earnings impact before we can think about the longer term earnings benefit.
Brett Brown
So the short term impacts that I mentioned was, $3 million to $4 million in operating profit in the land operations segment. That being said, as we also indicated, that was a reducing income stream there. So that was not a long term generation there. With the pay down of debt that came with are roughly 100,000 a month. So on an annualized basis, obviously, that's 20,000 --1.2 billion. And then I would hope you'd be able to redeploy sooner than 2024. But, we'll see what the opportunity set is. Clearly anything that happened this year would be later in the year would not have a material impact on 2022. But we would hope to see some decent impact favorable impact on 2023.
Alexander Goldfarb
And what about the earnings of Grace?
Lance Parker
So Grace has been volatile. But I didn't want to go back to what Brett was mentioning, as far as the impact McBryde. The other thing to consider is the termination of the pension itself does result in the avoidance of costs associated with us having those plans. And so as far as the impact to our P&L, on average, it was about $3 million to $4 million of total pension expense that we were incurring each year. And so that would be effectively an offset.
Alexander Goldfarb
Okay, and then the second question is ESG, obviously, it's something that's getting more and more focused, certainly Hawaii is understandably, a big environments very important. But still, you guys are a public company, there has to be an economic advantage. So, is this really more of a check the box? Or how do you guys measure? Because you could ESG anything and not get, you could not get a return? How do you measure the economic benefit to the company, to shareholders, to the dividends? And how do you strike a balance between what, maybe social warriors would want a company to do versus what's economically viable? How do you strike that balance? And how do you measure the economic returns?
Chris Benjamin
Yes, thanks. Thanks, Alex, for the question. So I'm going to invite and when I'm done with my remarks, by either Lance or Clayton or Brett to jump in on the economic returns that we expect from the solar installation, which are actually very, very strong, and probably only getting better as energy prices rise. But let me comment more generally on ESG. So first of all, we've always believed that being a company that's committed to the local community pays back in many ways, in terms of that I think the patient approach that we took with our tenants, during the pandemic has proven to be financially very, very attractive and appropriate, because as we've collected rents beyond what we beyond what we ever expected, we would, it's proven that keeping those tenants in place and taking that kind of long term approach has been very helpful.
And I would call that sort of an ESG friendly step. But we do other things we give back to the community, we're involved in the community. And I think that when you have a company a REIT, that is geographically concentrated, like we are in a relatively small market, those things pay dividends. The other thing that I would say, pays dividends and look, it's hard to it's hard to generate a calculator return from that, how much of our rebound and NOI is due to that patient approach versus just the rebound in the economy? I can't tell you definitively. But I truly believe that the community based approach and community sensitive approach we took it's helpful.
And then similarly on the workforce side. I truly believe that that the things we do on the ESG front with our employees helps reduce turnover, helps you reduce therefore recruitment costs and other costs associated with turnover. And so I do think there are economic benefits. Having said that, I completely agree with you that there needs to be an economic return from the things we do. But I'm firmly convinced that the decisions that we make on ESG are not only the right thing to do, but I think they are the right thing for our business and our shareholders, in the sense that they just improve our standing with our tenants, with our community and with our employees.
But specific to the PV installation, [Indiscernible] jump in and share a little bit about what we were able to do that.
Unidentified Company Representative
Yes, So I'll go ahead and jump in. And just, while all of the things that Chris said are correct and appropriate. We do have other ESG, and particularly on the east side, Alex, where it is a little easier to quantify some of the benefits. And I'm thinking specifically to the 1.3 megawatt solar rooftop installation at Pearl Highlands, which we are hoping by the way, is really just the first of a broader rollout of systems across the portfolio, where we will get a pickup an incremental pickup of about $300,000 in NOI. And I will state that that was based on original underwriting. Since then, the electricity costs have increased. And so if anything, the economic benefit could be even better to us. But I think we found a way to strike the right balance about doing the right thing, but then also finding opportunities to get paid for it as well.
Alexander Goldfarb
Thank you.
Lance Parker
Thanks, Alex.
Operator
And our next question will come from Sheila McGrath with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
Sheila McGrath
I guess. Good afternoon. On the land sale, I was wondering if you could give us a little insight on what portion was called conservation land and versus AG. I just I only asked that because in our model, we just assumed kind of zero conservation value for that. And just if you could give us did that all the acreage and the power plant go to one buyer?
Chris Benjamin
So Sheila, this is Chris. Taking it in reverse order? Yes, it was it was one buyer. In fact, it was the same buyer that bought the Kaka‘ako project from us, and it was not. They were completely separately negotiated deals. We didn't have any discussions about the the subsequent land sale until after we closed on the Kaka‘ako sale. But we felt that there were some good synergies for that buyer. And, and they agreed and so essentially the same group out of Colorado that that bought the Kaka‘ako property bought the rest of these lands. On the land maybe someone has the number, the exact number in front of them. It's a it's roughly 10,000 or 11,000 acres of the land was conservation and to someone.
Brett Brown
About two thirds conservation one and one third agriculture Chris.
Chris Benjamin
Yes. Okay. So yes, from a from a pure land standpoint, you're right, Sheila, that typically, conservation land has very little value, we don't typically assign zero, but we assign, in the hundreds of dollars, not in the 1000s or 10s of 1000s of dollars to conservation land, because it cannot be developed. However, the conservation land that we sold, the some of the good chunk of it was the land where water is collected for hydroelectric power generation. And so while the underlying land may not have a lot of value, the hydro plant that was associated with those lands, did have value because of the income that it generates. So I hope that's helpful too
Sheila McGrath
Yes, that's great. And then just let us know how much noncore lands are left to sell. And was there any tax leakage on that sale?
Chris Benjamin
So there was look, actually Clayton, you want to take those questions?
Clayton Chun
Sure. So as far as noncore land holdings, we have about 5300 acres remaining. And so, as far as your second question, tax leakage, there was no tax leakage. That was in the TRS and we were able to utilize some of our tax attributes that we had available to us.
Sheila McGrath
Okay, great. And then on the acquisition pipeline, I'm just curious if you think that your probability of hitting, near term targets, with the cost of debt higher for the leverage buyers, are you seeing any evidence of those type of buyers falling away and that would be to your advantage.
Chris Benjamin
I'd like to I'd like to think that we'll see some of those opportunities Sheila. And I think what we're seeing right now is a little bit of a pause in the market and people moving to sort of their respective sides of the table. But it is certainly our -- I don't know if I want to say expectation. But one of the things, I think we're well positioned, both from being here having the relationships but also from our balance sheet to be very opportunistic. So to the extent that we do get those opportunities, we are poised to move very quickly to pursue them.
Sheila McGrath
Okay, and then on. There was something in the supplemental, I saw quickly at that, an industrial acquisition, but it was from Grace Pacific. So I'm just wondering if you know, that's a new industrial development or what that asset is.
Chris Benjamin
Sheila that is a industrial building that was part of our Grace Specific operations. And so what happened during the quarter was we had simply just transferred that into the commercial real estate portfolio.
Sheila McGrath
Okay, so you'll, if Grace is sold, you'll be like the landlord, and they'll lease it back as is that a plan?
Chris Benjamin
That's correct. It would be retained.
Sheila McGrath
Okay, great. And then you did bump the dividend. Just wondering how investors should think about dividend policy? Are you targeting a certain payout ratio?
Brett Brown
Hey Sheila, it’s Brett. We're still trying to pay out right around 100% of the taxable income in the current environment.
Sheila McGrath
Okay, one last one is, there were in the supplemental, there's a number of ground lease resets, that are listed, sometime in 2022. Have those are those already like factoring through, 2Q results or something? Or do you think that there'll be some uplifting, ground leases in the back half of the year?
Chris Benjamin
We do have, I'm thinking of two specifically, Sheila one is a contractual reset. And so we would have that come through later in the year. And then we also have another that's a fair market value reset. That is currently we're currently in discussions with the tenant around what that rate will be. But I would, I would expect an impact, although I'm not sure how much it will. It will occur later in the year. I'm just not sure how much will actually impact our, our NOI in 2022. We'll get the full pickup of it in 2023.
Sheila McGrath
Okay, great. Thank you.
Chris Benjamin
Thank you, Sheila.
Operator
And this will conclude our question and answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Steve Swett for any closing remark.
Steve Swett
Thank you. Cole. And thank you all for joining us today. If you have any follow up questions, please feel free to call us at 808-525-8475 or email us at investorrelations@adhi.com. Aloha and have a great day.
Operator
The conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines at this time.
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