AMPG - AmpliTech Group Inc. (AMPG) Q3 2022 Results - Earnings Call Transcript
AmpliTech Group, Inc. (AMPG)
Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call
November 14, 2022, 01:00 PM ET
Company Participants
Shan Sawant - Director of Corporate Communications
Fawad Maqbool - Founder and CEO
Jorge Flores - COO
Louisa Sanfratello - CFO
Conference Call Participants
Eric Beder - SCC Research
Jack Vander Aarde - Maxim Group
Presentation
Operator
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to AmpliTech Group’s 2022 Investor Update Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded.
I'd now like to turn the conference call over to AmpliTech’s Director of Corporate Communications, Shan Sawant. Please go ahead.
Shan Sawant
Thank you and thanks everyone for joining today's call. Today we will review the third quarter and the progress of AmpliTech’s Growth Initiatives and answer investor questions. On the call today, our AmpliTech’s Founder and CEO, Fawad Maqbool; the Company COO, Jorge Flores; and the Company CFO, Louisa Sanfratello. Following initial management comments, we are going to open the call upto investor questions. An archived replay of today's call will be posted to the news section of AmpliTech’s corporate website. Q3 earnings press release will also be found there. This call is taking place on Monday, November 14, 2022
Remarks that follow and answers to questions including statements the Company believes to be forward-looking within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements generally include words such as anticipate, believe, expect, or words of similar importance. Likewise, statements that describe future plans, objectives, or goals are also forward-looking.
These forward-looking statements are subject to various risks that could cause actual results to be materially different than expected. Such risks include among others matters that the Company has described in its press releases and in its filings with the SEC, except as described in these filings, the Company disclaimed any obligations to update forward-looking statement, which are made as of today's date.
With that, let me turn the call over to our CEO Fawad Maqbool.
Fawad Maqbool
Thank you, Shan. Good day everyone. We appreciate your joining us on today's third quarter investor update call. I want to use this time to review some key financial and operational milestones from Q3 '22, speak on current market conditions and overall communication space, and also provide an update on our two newer ventures MMICs and TGSS.
Let's begin with some key highlights of the third quarter. Revenue increased 415% to $5.4 million, compared to $1.1 million in Q3 '21. Q3 '22. Gross profit grew to $2.7 million and over 7-fold increase from the Q3 '21 gross profit of $314,000. The gross profit margin expanded 193 basis points to 49% compared to 29.7% in the same period last year. Q3 '22 net income reached $577,000 compared to a Q3 '21 net loss of $593,000. That's a positive swing of approximately $1.2 million. As of September 30, 2022, our cash and equivalence totaled $13.1 million and working capital was $20.2 million, giving us an ample capital to fund all of our strategic growth initiatives.
Now operationally, AmpliTech had a successful showing at the annual AOC Electronic Defense Show, achieving positive customer engagement and setting a company record for a number of meetings with new and existing customers. These included many military applications, since we know there was a large effort by the government to update much of the existing obsolete communications infrastructure.
We expect this to create demand for our new technology. MMIC chips are now available to our customers for the first time for sampling and small quantities for production. We have had interests from government and commercial organizations for these MMICs and designing’s are expected to lead to production next year.
Finally, TGSS AmpliTech’s fully managed 5G system integrator company, is now operational. Revenue contribution from this division is expected to begin by Q3, 2023 or earlier. I'll get into more detail on that later on.
Now I'd like to add some color to broader market conditions and speak to our revenue guidance for the year. AmpliTech product demand remains strong, as shown by the increased revenue guidance we just issued in our earnings press release. As I mentioned in the third quarter, we reported record quarterly revenue of $5.4 million.
Effectively, quintupling our Q3 2021 revenue of $1.1 million, this growth was primarily driven by strong demand for our LNA products and semiconductor packages. It's important to note, as per our previous quarter guidance, that despite rising industry material costs, we reported $577,000 of net income, compared to a net loss of $593,000 in Q3 '21. How do we do this? We optimized our manufacturing process and focused attention and higher margin products to raise our gross profit margins from 29.7% as mentioned in Q3 ‘21 to 49% in Q3 ‘22.
Again, that's an improvement of 193 basis points. We continue to see strong unwavering demand for our products and our increasing revenue guidance for the full year of 2022 to a minimum of $18 million. A $1 million increase from our guidance last quarter, representing a 239% increase over fiscal year 2021 revenues. AmpliTech is also well capitalized for executing our strategic growth initiatives with solid cash reserves of $13 million and the healthy working capital of $20 million, low cash burn and profitable operations, we have no need to raise additional cash at this time.
Now, I would like to speak about the communications infrastructure space today and the opportunities that we see ahead for AmpliTech. As of today, we still find that the communications industry infrastructure is not at the level it needs to be to power next generation technologies. And I've mentioned this in the past on previous PR investor calls.
In fact, Ookla’s latest 5G network speed test report shows 57 to 116 megabit per second downstream speeds, and eight to 11 megabit per second upstream speeds, from the three major carriers; that just means speed to everyone here on your cell phones and on your laptop and your devices. These are numbers from this quarter, so you can see recently even from these numbers that we're still not at what we should be, it's far from the 1-2 GB/S speeds that denotes true 5G, including the 2-5 GB/S speeds required by AR/VR technologies companies like Metaverse.
We see this disconnect as a massive opportunity aligned with our strategic goals. As we build out our product suite, our goal is to improve this overall infrastructure performance and bring it much closer to enabling true 5G. We're happy to report that our AGMDC design center is now sampling LNA and PA MMIC power amplifiers in chip form to customers. This has been met with great enthusiasm. We now have an assortment of loan noise amplifiers, filters, attenuators, and other components available in ship form or MMIC, and we expect to add more new products by the end of 2022.
We are progressing on schedule for the launch of this product line and we reiterate our goal to provide MMIC chips on a COTS or Commercial off-the-shelf bases by Q2, 2023. We are also continuing the development of our TGSS division, which will offer innovative true 5G O-RAN radios as well as the planning and optimization services required to complete all new 5G installations globally.
For those of you that that don't understand O-RAN and what it means, let me give you an analogy. If people travel overseas or to another country, they need to have to get to use their appliances and adapter; something that converts 110 volts to 220 or 220 to 110; without this conversion, they cannot use their appliance. So using this analogy, O-RAN is something that you need to have 5G in-place and to adapt for 5G, you'll need this adapter to connect to the older technology. So in essence, without this adapter, you cannot get to 5G.
So AmpliTech is enabling this adapter to work and thus provide the 5G that's necessary and convert all existing infrastructure to 5G so the old can be converted into the new relatively easily. I hope that makes you understand how important the O-RAN technology is and who would now buy an adapter? I think we all need to buy that.
The amplifiers are essential to the 5G communications system. They're responsible for ensuring the quality of the signal and carrying the data across to an end user. AmpliTech amplifiers feature extremely low noise across a range of frequencies, diffuse minimal data loss, and ultimately provide clear signal that can travel great distances at greater speeds. We believe that by implementing these components into a full 5G open radio unit, which we are building in the next gen open ran architecture; we expect to create a compelling product for our customers. They should play an essential role in allowing networks to move closer to achieving true 5G performance.
In closing, I'd like to congratulate the AmpliTech’s team for their hard work and execution that's evident in our record third wave -- third quarter results. We are thrilled to continue to solve the challenges ahead of us, by building communications infrastructure of tomorrow, today.
Now I'll open the call up for Q&A. Specific questions, we'd be happy to answer.
Question-and-Answer Session
Operator
We will now begin the question-and-answer Session. [Operator Instructions]. Our first question today will come from Eric Beder with SCC Research. Please go ahead.
Eric Beder
Good afternoon. Congratulations on an impressive quarter. Great. When you talk up -- could you talk a little bit about Spectrum? You're almost laughing the anniversary of purchasing that. What do you see as a longer term opportunities there and kind of what do you look at the growth rate going forward in the potential for further profitability at Spectrum?
Jorge Flores
Well, we see continued growth. I mean, we, we have seen continued growth because of the demand, that's existing and it's in aligned with all the, all the requirements for 5G and all the requirements for the chips right now as it is. But as these technologies evolve, they'll still be a continuing demand and we plan on infusing it with our own MMICs as well. So we will actually increase that revenue by scaling it up and joining the production of our MMICs into the stocking capability of spectrum.
So therefore they'll have a value add now. They'll be able to sell not only the semiconductor packages themselves, but they'll also be able to sell the MMICs in the packages to the same existing customer base. And that will be an increase in revenue for both companies, for both divisions.
Eric Beder
Wait, could you I know you recently signed an agreement with Meta. Could you talk a little bit about that and where you think that will eventually go in terms of opportunities?
Jorge Flores
Well, we didn't sign any agreements with Meta. We did join the tip, which is the telecom info project that they have. So we joined them as a participant in providing technology for all this evolving structure, the infrastructure.
Eric Beder
Okay. And last question on Quantum computing, obviously it's a big piece, it's growing. You have the right LNAs for that. What about that in terms of going forward in terms of both returns and in terms of revenue for that?
Jorge Flores
Sure. So we do definitely see an increase in the requirements for quantum computing. As I mentioned before, it's like a hockey stick and we're at the curve of that hockey stick and we've also sent in several demo units to customers, and right now they're in qualification. We believe we will have a high success rate. So it is really a pivotal year. Actually next year will be a pivotal year because all the demonstrations that have been done this year, we provided hardware to these large users and when they see the comparative results of our products compared to what is out there, then we see a very, very large increase in revenue next year, due to this. I can't give you any numbers on that, but the total market is obviously in the hundreds of millions.
Eric Beder
All right guys, well, congratulations again in a great quarter and good luck for Q4.
Operator
And our next question will come from Jack Vander Aarde with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.
Jack Vander Aarde
Okay, great. Hey guys great results. Congrats on the strong quarter. Thanks for taking my questions. Fawad, I don't have too many more right now, but obviously -- obviously a strong sales result in the third quarter. And good to see you raise the revenue guidance for the year. Just remind me, seasonally speaking, while the, while the overall opportunity is in the early innings, seasonally speaking, do you expect the fourth quarter to be a little slower than third quarter then?
Fawad Maqbool
Yes, in general, it usually is slower due to the holidays. We really have two big holidays and, and you lose two weeks or so from that. And not just that, there are a lot of people that take the vacations at this time, even customers. So even though we would normally pick up orders or they're in line, they wouldn't be placed until next year. Also, because a lot of people hold back on the budgets, they wait till next year and then they put the budget in place because they run out of funds for this year. So usually it always is a little bit lower.
Jack Vander Aarde
Okay, got you. That makes sense. And then just you mentioned, and you've mentioned this in the past and I've been aware of it, you, you've had, you've been having success and experiencing strong demand at these recent trade show events. Are you receiving -- are you actively receiving customer orders after these trade shows? And just, wondering just what the cadence is there, are you seeing orders come in? Are you seeing more orders come in than normal? Are you in discussions with these customers, just an update from following the trade test?
Fawad Maqbool
Yes, actually we are. We have actually, we, as mentioned before, we implemented the CRM tool, that we are using now. And it's really generated a lot of inquiries and a lot of a large funnel for inquiries and then which will be converted a large, a large percentage of that. I don't know. Jorge, what percentage are we looking at forecast somehow?
Jorge Flores
Well, right now, like our CRM model, though have source of doing at least converting 25% of the opportunities that are in the funnel. And just to add to the success that we're getting at the trade shows, we're generating a lot of requests for information that before we have, which eventually, as you're aware of it will turn into RFQ and then solidly purchase orders from different new people.
Jack Vander Aarde
Okay, that's helpful. And then, I just want to get your thoughts on the backlog because when you acquired Spectrum at the beginning, or earlier, I guess like a year ago now you had quite a sizable backlog from that acquisition. Do you, when you're looking at, I don't want to get ahead of my skis here, but when you're looking at 2023, obviously you're expecting a huge demand influx here. Do you, but obviously you need customer orders to, to generate sales. So what's your just level of confidence and outlook visibility into, customer orders coming in that could set you up for growth in 2023?
Jorge Flores
Well, it, I, can tell you that we have five, at least five very large customers that we are discussing these products in quantum computers, quantum computing as well as the 5G applications. We're very close to receiving orders. I can't say anything right now, but in general, the only limitations right now for us getting purchase orders are just logistics and current conditions, economy conditions that we've been in experiencing there. There's a lot involved in the, that causes these delays. But again, my estimate is as early as Q4, we could see some of the results of all these efforts as early as Q4 and it could be not in revenue, but in bookings.
Jack Vander Aarde
Okay, great. Great. So it sounds like we could we could see a bit of a domino effect possibly as we get closer to year-end, you could start to see some evidence of more of these orders coming in. And I guess we'll, we'll kind of get an update from you probably by, February or March of next, of next year at that time when you report the fourth quarter. So that's great to hear. Also, I'm happy to see, great job on the, on the bottom line too.
Great to see you, you put up over just over $5 million of revenue and yet you put up a GAAP net profit. So that's, that's great as well. Do you, I imagine you expect you guys have a high degree of operating leverage in this business; I imagine that there's no reason to not expect that to continue; I expect as revenue scales, I imagine you'll be more profitable?
Louisa Sanfratello
Yes, yes. Our goal is to, to shift our focus, as I mentioned before from the original mode that we were providing the LNAs connector LNAs just, just in regular commercial markets here and there to smaller customers. Our goal is to provide the very special LNAs, which differentiate us from other competitors. We really don't have competitors that can provide the same kind of amplifiers and low noise amplifiers that can actually fit into and enable these communications technologies as well as we can.
So we feel that it's only a matter of time before all of those get put in place. And the government itself from that show in, specifically that show is for military applications. So we are going after all the military applications because there's a whole revamping of military communications infrastructure and companies like Space Force and Navy and Air Force, they're all revamping their communications hardware.
So we've made inroads in contacting all these companies and are now getting some exposure for both our connector modules as well as our MMIC chips, so, that we can access the entire -- the entire spectrum of applications. So that's just one thing that we're doing. But in specifically, specifically, we are focusing towards the larger margin applications. Every one of these things that we mentioned, a larger margin and not just the regular general amplifier requirements like we used to do before.
So we've really transformed the company into a different type of company. And, and in many ways we've done consolidation. We've brought to the, the specialty microwave from two buildings into one building. We've effectively lowered our overhead so that you have more of a profit margin. That's also a big, big plus for us because by, buying specialty, I mean spectrum, we have actually went into a resale operation that averages out to a lower overhead from manufacturing. And we are staying away from full scale manufacturing. That's also helping.
We've also implemented an ERP system, which lowers our overhead and actually increases our throughput. So we're doing a lot of things to actually increase our gross margins and in turn our profits.
Jack Vander Aarde
That's really great color. Well, congrats again. Its all the results tonight and I look forward to watching you guys execute. Thanks guys.
Operator
And our next question will come from Edward Gilmore, private investor. Please go ahead.
Unidentified Analyst
Right. Congrats on a strong quarter to log in. Thanks for taking my call, just one question for me. You mentioned in the press release that the TGSS is now completed and operational, and I wondered if you could just maybe give some more insight on the eventual revenue impact there. Thanks.
Louisa Sanfratello
Sure. So the revenue comes from two different places in TGSS. The first part of it is services. Basically what I mentioned before, you need to take all these existing 3G, 4G, LTE, so-called 5G stuff that's right there, right, with all carriers right now. We need to upgrade all of that and put in the inter-operability with the new 5G systems. That inter-operability is the O-RAN compliance, which is, has been standardized so that everyone can use the existing infrastructure and then tack on the 5G. Otherwise it's not possible.
So services TGSS is providing these services that will make O-RAN compliance for all these carriers. And that means any country, anywhere that's using 3G, 4G, 5G, they will now be able to come up to that standard and be able to receive the new 5G hardware, so second part of our plan in TGSS is to provide the hardware. So the hardware itself is the radio that uses our amplifiers, which are very low cost, I mean not low cost, but low noise. And as well, they have MMIC form. A MMIC form factor means chips, so they can fit into these radios and hundreds of them can fit in there because they're in ship form.
Now, because of that, we would be able to increase the range of these radios and provide a much lower noise figure and higher data, which other radios cannot. So it's a new kind of radio and hardware that is designed to fit into these existing systems so that they can be an easy retrofit. So the first part of it is the services to upgrade everything to be able to handle the new hardware for 5G. And the second part of it next year is to provide these, this hardware that will be retrofitted into millions of sites.
But also with the hardware and millions of sites, you're going to have services for all these millions of sites as well. So that's where the revenue will be coming in from both sides.
Unidentified Analyst
Got it. Makes sense and do you, when do you anticipate being able to start accepting orders? On the hardware side?
Louisa Sanfratello
Hardware side would be sometime mid next year is what our estimate is.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] .We do have one question that we submit electronically that reads what steps has AmpliTech made to increase gross profit margins? Is this due to operational or manufacturing changes? Is this sustainable for long-term?
Louisa Sanfratello
Sorry, as I mentioned before, yes, it is both operational and manufacturing. And I'll mention this again. We did the consolidation of the two companies so that we have a lower cost structure. We're also focusing all our product focus to the large higher margin products like the quantum computing amplifiers and modules also to the 5G infrastructure, which is the hardware, which is not a $2,000 amplifier like we normally sell. It's, several tens of thousands, right? So we'll multiply that by millions of sites.
So that is very important in, in showing why the revenue will increase. And in manufacturing, we've lowered our overhead, as I mentioned internally in all across our, our different divisions as well as the, the ERP system that we have in place. So we can effectively manage our pro production much more effectively and streamline the operations and then match our sales to our production. So we're providing more COTS products as well because of our MMIC products. So the COTS generates a faster turning turnover of sales as opposed to the custom design product that takes 30, 60, 90 days to build. So all of that adds up for a more streamlined operation with more throughput.
Operator
Thank you. And that concludes the question and answer session. I'd like to turn the call back over to Fawad Maqbool for any closing remarks.
Fawad Maqbool
Thank you, Operator. Thank you to everyone who joined today's call. To hear about the progress we've made and the plans we have to realize AmpliTech mission of providing the communication systems of tomorrow, today. We look forward to updating you further on our Q4 and year-end earnings in March. Until then, if you have any other questions or would like to schedule a call with management, please contact our communications director whose contact information is listed at the bottom of our press releases. Thank you. Be well and have a good day.
Operator
Today's conference call is now concluded. Thank you. You may now disconnect your lines at this time.
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