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home / news releases / BKRIY - Bank of Ireland Group plc (BKRIF) Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript


BKRIY - Bank of Ireland Group plc (BKRIF) Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

2023-07-31 16:25:25 ET

Bank of Ireland Group plc (BKRIF)

Q2 2023 Earnings Conference Call

July 31, 2023, 03:00 AM ET

Company Participants

Myles O'Grady - Group Chief Executive

Mark Spain - Chief Financial Officer

Conference Call Participants

Diarmaid Sheridan - Davy

Grace Dargan - Barclays

Chris Cant - Autonomous

Borja Ramirez - Citi

Seamus Murphy - Carraighill

Andrew Stimpson - KBW

John Cronin - Goodbody

Presentation

Myles O'Grady

Good morning, everyone. I hope you're all very well, and you're very welcome to our H1 Results Presentation.

When we spoke last, we set out Bank of Ireland's three-year strategy, centered on stronger relationships, simpler business and sustainable company. We're now six months into the strategy. And today, I'm very pleased to announce a strong set of results, demonstrating our progress and delivering for customers, colleagues, shareholders and society. Our performance has been supported by three important factors: strategic management actions and business model development; a resilient Irish economy; and the impact of the interest rate environment.

In the first half of '23, we delivered a profit before tax of €1 billion with all business lines performing strongly. Net interest income increased by 68%, and business income rose 23%. We tightly managed costs with like-for-like costs broadly flat, and our asset quality remained resilient.

We also made a number of structural changes to support our commercial delivery. In May, we migrated our high net worth customers from Bank of Ireland Private to Davy. This will enhance the service our customers receive while helping us unlock revenue and value from that acquisition. And we brought our corporate and business banking operations into one structure, helping us better serve businesses of all sizes and stages of their development.

Over the first six months, we've worked hard at delivering a better service to our customers, and we've made tangible progress on our broader ESG strategy. All of this contributes to the delivery of our financial targets; with a ROTE of 18.5% in H1 and cost-to-income ratio of 42%, translating into capital generation of 180 basis points, helping our CET1 finish the half at 14.8%. We expect this to grow in H2 and look forward to a distribution decision at year-end. We fully appreciate that capital return and its timing is central to our franchise value and investment case for shareholders.

Turning now to Slide 6. After many years of negative interest rates, the change in the interest rate environment has been a tailwind, one of the components supporting sustainable profitability. We're also vigilant to the risk associated with higher rates in relation to customer affordability, asset quality and inflation. And as this slide shows, on the whole, the economic environment remains supportive. Both Ireland and the U.K. have essentially full employment, and in headline terms, Ireland is set to be the EU's fastest growing economy for a fourth successive year with inflation moderating. Our geographical footprint in Ireland and internationally are complementary with overall asset quality resilience.

Slide 7 sets out the performance of our main business lines for the first six months of the year. As you can see from this slide, in line with our strategy and reflecting market consolidation, we grew Irish mortgage market share to 41%, with our net lending growing at an annualized rate of 6%. We continued to maintain pricing discipline, taking a holistic approach to mortgage and deposit customers, while ensuring we secure sustainable economic returns.

We have grown our deposits by €2.5 billion year-to-date, driven by our strong Irish retail franchise. Our Wealth and Insurance business delivered net customer inflows of €1.2 billion despite market volatility. And we've also grown our corporate and business books in Ireland albeit credit appetite is relatively muted. As we guided back in March, we've adopted a cautious stance towards international lending and CRE given the uncertain outlook. And in the U.K., we successfully continued our value over volume strategy.

Digitalization and simplifying our business is a top priority. Slide 8 shows what this is delivering. Customer satisfaction is up, complaints are down, customers are taking more of our products, and we are simplifying our business model. All of this is core to our strategy. And I'd like to take the opportunity to remind everyone of our recent appointment of Aine McCleary as Chief Customer Officer, a new role to truly embed a customer-first value. Aine's appointment is in addition to a number of other high-caliber appointments we have made to our executive committee this year, including Gavin Kelly as CEO of Corporate Markets, and Susan Russell as CEO of Retail Ireland.

Slide 9 sets out the ESG progress we have made in the first half of the year. We've grown our sustainability-related finance by 18% to €9.7 billion. You've heard me talk before about the importance of practical interventions that make a difference. We remain Ireland's leading lender of green mortgages. Today, I'm pleased to announce we are increasing our available funding for homebuilding from €1 billion to €1.75 billion. And we've also recently announced more than €100 million in funding for wind energy and recycling initiatives in Ireland and Scotland.

Given the current backdrop, our focus on financial wellbeing has never been more important, where that is ensuring the affordability of our products are our financial literacy programs, which close to 0.5 million students have participated in. And for colleagues, engagement is ahead of the industry average.

Through progressive hiring policies, we increasingly have a bank that better reflects the societies we operate in. With female leaders accounting for 41% of our senior appointments in H1, we have more to do to achieve our gender targets and we are working hard on this. We also continue to consider more broadly our role in society and the positive impact our organization and our colleagues can have.

Before passing it over to Mark, I'd like to reiterate what I see as Bank of Ireland's unique position as the National Champion Bank. We have the opportunity and the capability to serve our customers' diverse financial needs at every stage of their lives. Through Bank of Ireland, Davy and New Ireland, we offer banking, Wealth and Insurance propositions, all from within the group, and we operate in an attractive economy with supportive demographics. Our U.K. and international businesses are important and complementary. All of this has allowed us to deliver strongly against our medium-term financial targets, which apply to every year of our strategic plan. And as Mark will set out, our plan is performing particularly well this year.

As I mentioned at the start, we're now six months into the three-year strategy. Our strong results show the progress we are making and our delivery for customers, colleagues, shareholders and society.

I'll now pass over to Mark to talk you through the financial performance.

Mark Spain

Thank you, Myles, and good morning, everyone.

We delivered a strong financial performance in the first half. This performance reflects our strategic decisions in recent years and commercial delivery across our business lines, supported by higher interest rates. Key highlights include: further organic net lending in Ireland and operating leverage reflected in the cost-to-income ratio of 42%; our statutory PBT was €1 billion, 3 times last year's amount, which is reflected in our strong organic capital generation of 180 basis points; we've also upgraded our NII guidance for the year, reflecting our commercial performance and updated interest rate expectations.

This slide summarizes our key financial metrics. There are two items I want to draw at. Firstly, our ROTE of 18.5%, which is a key financial metric in which all of our capital allocation decisions are based on. And secondly, the 7% year-to-date growth in our TNAV to €0.924, reflecting our earnings strength in the period.

On Slide 15, we look at our NII in detail. The growth we're reporting today is driven by higher liquid asset income, reflecting higher rates and our growing deposit franchise in Ireland, and higher lending income, reflecting rates, our commercial actions and the KBCI transaction. These positive effects were partially offset by higher wholesale funding costs and deposit costs and these will continue to evolve in a higher rate environment. We continue to maintain our commercial discipline with loan asset spreads up 27 basis points from the same period last year. Looking ahead, we expect H2 NII to be modestly higher than H1, reflecting positive rate impacts and business momentum, partially offset by higher funding costs. And as I mentioned earlier, this is a material upgrade on our prior guidance.

The next slide sets out our NII sensitivity, which is reduced at the start of the year. As you can see, it also provides some further detail on our structural hedge where our decisions have protected our NII. You can see a significant increase in the structural hedge gross income, which is driven by higher swap rates and volumes. The average gross yield of 134 basis points is double the H2 2022 level and will continue to pick up as the hedge rolls over.

Slide 17 shows how we've grown our loan book by more than tenth since the start of the year. The single largest driver of this is the closing of the KBCI acquisition in Q1. But we've also delivered strong organic growth in Ireland, with the book growing by €0.8 billion in H1, which is the same level as delivered in 2022 as a whole. Within this, we've delivered a particularly strong performance in mortgages while maintaining commercial discipline. In the U.K., we've seen modest deleveraging, materially lower than last year. And as Myles mentioned, we've maintained our cautious approach to international and commercial property lending. Looking ahead, we expect our loan book to grow in H2, driven primarily by Irish mortgages.

Total business income was up 23% in H1, primarily reflecting a full period contribution from Davy following its June 2022 acquisition and underlying business momentum. We've restated our Retail Ireland and corporate markets figures to reflect the transfer of business banking. The Wealth and Insurance figures are presented on an IFRS 17 basis with the comparatives restated. I spoke about two key drivers of our business income back in March, and you see those evidenced here. Retail Ireland continuing to grow, reflecting higher current account fees and activity. And Wealth and Insurance growing once the Davy acquisition is adjusted for. Our expectation for business income in H2 is for the performance to be broadly in line with the H1 outturn.

Slide 19 covers our operating expenses, and the key message here is that they are performing in line with prior guidance. On a like-for-like basis, operating expenses are flat year-on-year, with efficiencies and lower pension costs balanced against inflationary pressures and investment. Our reported operating expenses reflect the impact of acquisitions, an allowance for variable pay and additional investment to drive future efficiencies. For the full year, our expectation is for operating expenses to be about €1.85 billion.

The H1 impairment charges were €158 million, and reflects a cautious approach to provisioning notwithstanding the resilience of our customer base. This caution can be seen in our updated IFRS 9 macroeconomic assumptions where we increased the weightings for the downside scenarios by 5 points to 45%, and in the €16 million management overlay we've taken to provide a further buffer for affordability risks on mortgage and consumer portfolios. The charge also reflects a €17 million day 1 adjustment for the KBCI acquisition. For the full year subject to no material change in economic conditions and outlook, we continue to expect the impairment charge to be in the mid-30s basis points.

As you can see in Slide 21, Bank of Ireland has the benefit of a diversified loan book both by geography and product. We take a disciplined approach to customer lending across all of our portfolios. Our loan book is strongly collateralized. Our mortgage book in Ireland is a weighted average LTV of 53%. Three-fifth of this book have been originated under the macro prudential mortgage rules. Our U.K. mortgage book has a weighted average LTV of 56%. The property and construction portfolio accounts for one-tenth of gross loans, and we've reduced our exposure during the period. Some 90% of this book relates to investment property with circa 70% of this in Ireland. The weighted average LTV on the entire investment book is 59%.

This slide also highlights the prudent coverage levels across the books, 1.7% at the end of June. Our NPE ratio is stable in H1 following a very material reduction last year. We will continue to drive this lower through organic and inorganic activity.

Slide 22 illustrates the group's strong liquidity and funding. Our deposit volumes have grown by €2.5 billion since the start of the year, supported by elevated household savings in Ireland and the strength of our deposit franchise. We have seen modest migration to term accounts and regular savings products to-date, with this expected to increase as we go forward. The group's liquidity metrics continue to be very strong and our liquid assets are held either at central banks or invested in highly-rated bonds.

Slide 23 shows the walk in the fully loaded CET1 ratio since the start of 2023. Our closing CET1 ratio of 14.8% is comfortably above our capital target. A highlight is our strong net organic capital generation of 180 basis points, 3 times the 50 basis points delivered in H1 of last year. The increase in RWAs is driven by mix and KBCI. We've taken a foreseeable dividend deduction of one-third of H1 2023 profit, consistent with our distribution policy. In terms of the outlook, we expect H2 net organic capital generation to be broadly similar to H1. As is customary, we will decide on the quantum of ordinary dividend and the level of share buybacks at year-end.

I also want to briefly comment on the EBA stress test results, released after the market closed on Friday. We were very pleased with our results. They show a significant improvement since the last stress test, the direct result of actions we have taken. These results underline the strength, resilience and sustainability of our business model.

Slide 24 recaps on our principal guidance for the year. All of this leads to our expectation for 2023 ROTE to be similar to H1.

I'll now pass back to Myles for closing remarks.

Myles O'Grady

Thank you, Mark.

Let me conclude by saying that we have a winning strategy because of the trust of our customers, the support of our shareholders, both of which are never taken for granted. And let me conclude also with a special thanks to my colleagues across the organization for their remarkable commitment.

We'll now open the line for questions. Thank you.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from Diarmaid Sheridan from Davy. Please go ahead.

Diarmaid Sheridan

Hi. Good morning, Miles. Good morning, Mark. Thank you for taking my questions and for the presentation this morning. A couple of questions, if I may, please. Firstly, just around the commentary around organic capital generation, obviously, very strong in the first half of the year and expected to be very strong in the second half, too. So, all things being equal, that would kind of suggest that fully loaded CET1 should be around the 15.5% mark as we look into the end of this year. So, I guess, based on your greater than 14% CET1 ratio, does that kind of indicate that you could go for a higher payout than you had previously guided?

Secondly, just around your top-line performance, which again was very strong in the first half of the year and you've guided a little bit higher into the second half. Just if you could maybe talk through some of the positives and some of the headwinds particularly on net interest income that you're expecting to see and I guess more specifically around the deposit book around the pass-through assumptions and behavioral aspects of migrations from your deposit base from current accounts and demand accounts into term accounts? What you're seeing there? And I guess what you expect to see in 2024?

And finally, maybe if I could just ask you to briefly comment on asset quality trends and I guess within what is still an evolving environment? What are you seeing in terms of customer behaviors? I mean, clearly you have shown a small increase in Stage 2 and NPEs have also ticked up a little in Q2. So, just in terms of what you're seeing there. Thank you.

Myles O'Grady

Diarmaid, good morning and thanks for those questions. I'll take the capital question and I'll also comment on NII with Mark offering more detail on that and Mark will take that asset quality as well. Diarmaid, on capital and distribution, so let me start by saying that I would have called this out in the presentation. I fully appreciate that capital return and its timing is essential to our franchise value in Bank of Ireland, and therefore, the investment case for shareholders.

Now, in March, as part of our strategy, I communicated an updated distribution policy, which is a dividend payout building to circa 40% by next year. We did 25% last year and, as you heard from Mark, we're currently accruing to 33% this year. And of course, the other really important component of that policy is the distribution of surplus capital to be considered annually.

This year's performance very much supports that policy with a ROTE of 18.5% compared to our target of 15%. And therefore, we can expect the quantum of cash dividend to be higher. And with capital generation of 180 points in H1 and a similar amount in H2, we know our capital position will be well above our target of holding CET1 greater than 14%, which therefore, supports the distribution of surplus capital by way of share buyback.

I also would like to say we have an ambition to execute the share buyback more quickly at times with the announcement of our '23 annual results. I know Mark and I, we look forward to making those distribution decisions with our Board at year-end.

On top-line performance on NII, clearly our net interest income performance has been enhanced by the current interest rate environment, where wholesale rates are higher for longer than previous forecast, and that's one of the factors driving our ROTE performance. But it's worth just -- I'm picking this a little bit. So, ECB rates have now increased by 4.25%, obviously driven by strong concerns for inflation. And against this backdrop, we've taken a balanced approach to increasing loan rates on sort of the mortgages and also increasing deposit rates.

And just to offer some context, our Irish deposit book is broadly the same size as our Irish mortgage book, and therefore, we can regard the deposit book is funding the mortgage book. They're fundamentally interrelated.

So, with that as a backdrop, in passing on both rates to mortgage and deposit customers, we're very much maintaining our track record of pricing discipline. And so far, we've passed on between 1.25% and 1.75% to fixed mortgages. And back to that balance point, we've deployed new deposit product proposition, which included a two-year term deposit offering 2% interest.

And maybe just to comment on customer behavior, because it is relevant to the guidance. To my mind, because it's a very long period of low and negative rates, customers are slow to move from noninterest-bearing to interest-bearing accounts. I expect that to change as customer awareness increases. And I'd very much encourage customers to avail of these products.

All of that is captured in our NII guidance for '23, which Mark has provided, and indeed is captured in our '24 and '25 ROTE target of 15% and our cost-income ratio of below 50%. And before I hand over to Mark, the asset quality overall has proven to be very resilient. I'll pass it over to Mark now.

Mark Spain

Thanks, Myles. Good morning, Diarmaid. So, just maybe on the NII, just maybe on the moving parts there on H2 guidance, and so really three things. Firstly, business momentum on the loan side and we're seeing that obviously in the first half in Ireland. We expect the loan book at an overall level to grow in the second half of the year and again Irish mortgage to be very prominent in that regard. Also some further modest growth on the deposit side. And that's if you think about those very much as a result of the strategic decisions we've made and our commercial activity on the ground.

Secondly, the positive factor average rates will be higher in the second half of the year versus the first half of the year's tailwind. And offsetting that really higher wholesale funding costs and higher deposit costs and very much reflecting what Myles said there about the anticipated evolution of customer behavior.

All those factors feed into our guidance for our NII in the second half to be modestly higher than the first half. But that is a material upgrade on our prior guidance and I think it's an upgrade on consensus as well.

Just in relation to 2024 and NII, clearly we're not giving guidance today at our interim results, but maybe just a couple of contextual comments. So firstly, rates are now expected by the market to be higher and for longer than when we set our three-year targets back in March even if they have been volatile. And I suppose maybe secondly and just picking up a topic talking about some of the other results cause in terms of peak NII, if I was asked that probably back on the 7th of March, I would have had a strong conviction that 2023 would be the peak year for NII in the current cycle. Just given the rate of evolution, I'd be less and sure about back today.

Just then maybe turning to asset quality, again the overarching message here, as Myles said, is that our customers are exhibiting resilience right across our portfolios. There's no evidence of any material stress. Just to bring it to life looking at maybe a couple of individual portfolios. So Irish mortgages, almost two-thirds of that book has been originated in the Irish macro financial rules. The balance of the book, the LTV is circa 40%. And CRE again an area of focus. I would say that's performed better than we anticipated in the first half. We've had a lot of proactive engagement with our customers and that engagement has gone well. LTV, they're at sub-60%, so a lot of equity protection from the group's perspective.

I'd say notwithstanding that overall resilience, our approach and it's consistent over the past number of periods, has to take a cautious approach in relation to provisioning. We can get into some of the details after Q&A, but just to bring it to life, we've increased the weighting to downside scenarios by 5% to 45%, as the downside scenarios constitute 45% of those overall scenarios.

From a NPE perspective, we are stable in the first half, so 3.6%. That's after a very significant reduction last year. And if you recall, last year, the NPE reduction was second half weighted. We have a slight uptick you mentioned in Q2. That is really due to quite a cautious approach in relation to U.K. mortgage customers [indiscernible] arrears. I wouldn't really overread that.

And maybe just briefly then, just in the context of asset quality, maybe just to briefly comment on the EBA stress test results, which were released after market close on Friday. We're really quite pleased with those, very significant improvement in our depletion levels versus the 2021 test. That is a direct result of the actions we have taken to de-risk the balance sheet. Our depletion now is 50 basis points better than the European average compared to 50 basis points worse in the test two years ago. And really, bringing it all together, we'd say the stress test underlines the sustainability and resilience of the business model.

Diarmaid Sheridan

Thanks, Mark. Great. Thank you.

Myles O'Grady

Thanks very much , Diarmaid.

Operator

Thank you. We will now go to your next question. And your next question comes from the line of Grace Dargan from Barclays. Please go ahead.

Grace Dargan

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Maybe just drilling down a little bit more into NII. Firstly, hopefully a slightly easier one, what are you thinking of is modestly higher into H2?

And then, thinking a bit more about your guidance and into next year, so maybe we could ask kind of what betas have you seen on your deposits in H1? Kind of what you're assuming in the guidance for H2? And what are you thinking about as terminal betas? And kind of linked to that as well, kind of how is that deposit mix shift evolution differing between retail and corporate?

And then, finally, I guess thinking about that, how is that impacting how you're thinking about ROTE into next year? And that NII trajectory is potentially supporting ROTE some way ahead of that medium-term guidance? So, any thoughts around that would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Myles O'Grady

Grace, good morning, and thank you for the questions. I'll comment on the beta components and Mark will take the further details both on net interest income and guidance. And again back to my comments I guess from earlier, because of what's been a very long period of low and negative rates, customers have been slow to move to higher rewarding products. And we do expect that to change, no question, as customer awareness increases. And again we've encouraged customers to avail of those products for sure. We're not disclosing specific betas, but you can see in the presentation, the evolution of the overall interest income and interest expense that's set out. And what's important I suppose is that as we expect those customers to migrate from noninterest-bearing to interest-bearing, that will happen. We've captured that in our NII guidance for this year and is also captured clearly in our targets out to '24 and '25.

Mark, over to you.

Mark Spain

Yes. Grace, so just maybe on the NII and modestly higher piece, so I mean, again the factors are just the same factors I spoke about in answer to Diarmaid's question on that business momentum, the average rate's higher and then that customer migration, which you've spoken to there in terms of the deposit piece. We also have to factor in, for example, the MRR impact from last Thursday, so that's just under €40 million annualized cost to us, which comes in from September so that's built in. And if I bring all those together, modestly for me, it's probably in the low single digits in H2 versus H1.

In terms of ROTE into FY '24, so again coming back to what we said earlier, if the rate environment plays out the way the market currently expects, from an NII perspective, that's a net positive for us. We just need to see how that lands in the second half of the year. Clearly, if the rate environment is higher, that may be because inflation is higher and we need to think about whether there are some offsets in other P&L lines. But overall, if the rate environment plays out, let's say, the way the market currently projects, that's a net positive for us going into 2024.

Grace Dargan

Thank you.

Myles O'Grady

Thank you, Grace.

Operator

Thank you. We will now go to your next question. And your next question comes from the line of Chris Cant from Autonomous. Please go ahead.

Chris Cant

Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I just wanted to have a couple of quick follow-ups on NII, if I could, and then one around capital return, please. So in terms of NII, it would be really helpful if you could give us a sense of what the 2Q NII run rate is, and -- or just the sort of figures for 2Q so we can think about the development in a bit more detail?

And then, on the beta, Grace's question just then, I appreciate you don't necessarily want to give too specific figures, but obviously your largest domestic peer did give some commentary the other day and talked about less than or a bit less than 30% beta by the end of this year. I'm just wondering if you could speak to that whether your thinking is at least in that sort of ballpark.

And then, on capital return, I appreciate the commentary around capital generation for the second half. Obviously, the capital progression is going to be very strong. When I think about the sort of quantum of capital return that consensus is anticipating, we're not going to be bringing the capital ratio down on that basis. So, you've obviously started to talk about the strength of the performance supporting surplus capital distributions. What sort of quantum should we be thinking about here? Are you actually expecting to now be able to return surplus capital in the sense that the total payout ratio, including buybacks, could be over 100%? So, obviously, you are meaningfully ahead of your capital target already and you're talking about generating further additional meaningful capital. And we've just not crossed that rubicon in Ireland for some time in terms of actually bringing down capital through surplus capital distributions. So, can we expect payout ratios to potentially tick north of 100% in order to actually bring the capital ratios down? Thank you.

Myles O'Grady

Good morning, Chris, and thank you for those questions. I'm going to comment on the capital return and also offer a view on the betas again, and Mark can offer more color on the NII.

So, Chris, the performance of Bank of Ireland this year very much supports a distribution policy, and we're very pleased to be in that position that organic capital generation of 180 basis points. Expecting a similar amount over the second half of the year. And the implications of that are profitability will be strong and overall capital levels will be strong as well.

From a cash dividend perspective, obviously, if the P&L is stronger, then the quantum of cash dividends will be higher as well. And on the return of surplus capital, most likely by way of a share buyback. I do want to say we're not assuming it's an automatic sweep down to 14%, our target capital is to be above 14%. But we are mindful that the business is generating significant capital and we've no desire to hoard capital. We look forward to making that decision on both the cash dividend and the return of surplus capital. And again just to be helpful, also it's our expectation that we will make that decision on the buyback hopefully sooner to align it with the results presentation for '23 results.

On the betas again, I know different institutions have communicated different beta assumptions. The most important message that I can give to you is that we're giving you the building blocks for NII both for this year and I think as well offering a qualitative view on where NII will be next year. I do expect customer behaviors to change. I expect customers to move from noninterest-bearing to interest-bearing and that is very much captured in our guidance.

The other relevance to not -- just giving you a beta in isolation is back to my balance point, how we consider the mortgage book and the deposit book, because they are interrelated. And we will most definitely be taking a balanced approach, which is designed to ensure, of course, we pass on rates to mortgage customers, but not to push them into affordability and, of course, we seek to reward deposit holders too. Mark?

Mark Spain

Yes, thanks, Myles. And Chris, I mean, the other piece, obviously, Myles has talked about and we're very consistent on that commercial discipline. Loan deposit ratio, our loan deposit ratio is south of 80%. So that's obviously a factor of it and all of that as well. I mean just on the Q2 piece, Q2 will look a little bit stronger than Q1. Obviously, KBC came on board in early February, so we've got a sort of a one-month differential there, and rates a tad higher in Q2 versus Q1. But that is -- I mean that Q2 performance, and then the factors that I've spoken about earlier in terms of those tailwinds and some of the puts and takes, those are all factored in in terms of our guidance for the second half of the year.

Chris Cant

Okay. Thank you.

Myles O'Grady

Thanks a lot, Chris.

Operator

Thank you. We'll now take your next question. And your next question comes from the line of Borja Ramirez from Citi. Please go ahead.

Borja Ramirez

Hello. Good morning. I have two questions. Firstly is on the commentary on the customer behavior, this is expected to change from noninterest-bearing to interest-bearing. I would like to ask what -- if you could give more details on the timing and also if there's any indications on what could drive this? Because so far, based on industry data, this doesn't seem to be the case at least for -- based on industry data.

And then, my second question is on the -- so I saw that in your [dollars] (ph) provisions, there was an impact linked to the impact on higher rates on mortgages. I would like to ask if you could please give some details on the mortgage affordability ratio for the customers with floating rate mortgages? These are my two questions. Thank you.

Myles O'Grady

Okay, Borja, thank you very much for that. In relation to the customer behaviors, you're right, there has been -- certainly in the Irish franchise there has been minimal movement -- behavioral movement of customers moving from noninterest-bearing to interest-bearing. And as rates particularly in the context of the products that we've brought out to the marketplace, as an example, the two-year tenure rate of 2%, it's reasonable to presume -- to assume that customers will begin to avail of those products. And again that's what we would expect and we would encourage customers to do that.

I think it's difficult to be precise as to when that will happen. I think we'll begin to see it over the second half of the year and further into next year as well. And that's why Mark has provided the updated guidance for NII and to give, I guess, comfort to everybody that we've captured that reality of customer behavior in our overall NII guidance and indeed back to that ROTE target of 15%, which is outperforming. As you know, this year at 18.5%.

Mark may have more detail on the mortgage question, but what I can say to you is that, for all our product offering, whether that's the fixed products, R&D, variable products, we very much take into account affordability. We essentially stretch the loan to a higher rate environment. And there's one data point that I think is worth just calling out. Bank of Ireland has very much promoted a fixed rate mortgage strategy in recent years. Now, the consequence of that -- the positive consequence is that 73% of Bank of Ireland fixed mortgages are fixed until '25 at the earliest and that offers protection to our customers from the rising interest rate environment. It also offers protection to Bank of Ireland as well.

Mark Spain

Yes. Borja, maybe just a couple of other data points. So, just on the Irish mortgage book again, just sort of two-thirds of that book originated out of the macroprudential rules, so that is -- and the balance of that book, which is obviously of longer standing goes back to pre-2015, the average LTVs there is about 40%.

The other data point that might be helpful for you is that if we go back to 2009, the minimum stress rate for any mortgage written was 5% and the entire book today is accessed to rates which are lower than 5%. So, again we've got a lot of, let's say, comfort around the quality of that mortgage book.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We will now go to your next question. And the question comes from Seamus Murphy from Carraighill. Please go ahead.

Seamus Murphy

Hi. Good morning. Myles and Mark. Thanks for taking my question. I suppose we've seen something similar develop in AIB whereby the customer spread actually hasn't grown significantly since ECB started to raise rates despite still very obviously low deposit beta. So, I think it's up only 30 basis points for you with close to 100% of your NII gains coming through your liquid asset portfolio. And I suppose the question is -- it seems quite strange that it's not happened today. So, when we think about that, again I suppose the question is, can you give us an indication of the share of your loans that are contractually EURIBOR linked? And if these are 12-month linked, this would be the only rational explanation for the [indiscernible] in the spread?

And second then as well something related to your fixed rate mortgage book, the question is, what's the duration of your fixed rate book? You've mentioned 2025 in the prior question. So, if we do assume a three-year duration and it's not swapped back to float for the purpose of your hedge, then we should think about NII gains into H2 and 2024 as well. So, in conclusion, that's kind of like surely the customer spread should rise from here at a more rapid pace than it has to date on the basis that you have to get some kind of your EURIBOR linking on your loan side. It just seems strange that it hasn't happened to-date. So, some context around that would be appreciated. Thank you.

Myles O'Grady

Seamus, thanks for that. I know Mark will have some detail on that, particularly in relation to how the structural hedging work to protect interest rates into the future. Let me just offer some comments as well. First of all, the loan spread for Bank of Ireland for first six months of the year has grown, and again that speaks to the pricing discipline that Bank of Ireland maintains. When you look at the profile of our balance sheet so for our €31 billion of mortgages in Ireland, 68% is fixed, 21% is a tracker mortgage, which obviously is aligned to ECB rates, and 10% is variable. And generally in the Irish franchise, when we look at non-property and property loans, they are typically priced according to wholesale rates plus a margin. So, you could expect those to move in line with rates, of course influenced by the structural hedging that we've taken over the last number of months. Mark?

Mark Spain

Yes, thanks, Myles, and thanks Seamus. Yes, so I mean exactly, Seamus, as you outlined from a customer perspective, you're going to see customer rates rising in those wholesale books. If you take our fixed rate mortgage book, we do swap that back to floating, so everything gets swapped back to floating, then the structural hedge is applied taking account of our equity and free funds balances and that's probably the piece that you're missing that ultimately comes back into the overall NII and gets factored into the customer spreads as well.

Now what we've shown is and we've demonstrated that the fixed leg -- received fixed leg on the structural hedge, that is growing. That's growing a little bit in volume terms, but really the rate received on that fixed leg is increasing. It's increased quite a bit in the first half relative to last year. And the average rate of 1.34% in H1, that compares to a seven-year -- sort of 3.5-year swap rate today of about 3%. So, we'd expect that to increase over time.

The structural hedge, ultimately that enhances our NII resilience, protects us on the upside -- sorry, protects us on the downside, as rates go lower, it obviously gives away a little bit on the upside, but its objective is a smooth NII over time. That is all ultimately factored into our guidance and our targets as we look into 2024 and 2025.

Operator

Thank you. We will now go to your next question. And your question comes from the line of Andrew Stimpson from KBW. Please go ahead.

Andrew Stimpson

Good morning, everyone. The rate sensitivity to any eventual rate cut has reduced on Slide 16. I was just wondering, are you happy with where that is now? Would you be keen to see that rate sensitivity continue to decline from here? And if so, what kind of level are you happy for that to get to?

And then, second question would be, is there any level of rates where you'd start to get more worried on credit quality? I appreciate all the comments where you've underwritten sort of 5%, et cetera, et cetera, but -- and I know it's a sliding scale. But is there any view that you've got at what level of rates is too high? Any thoughts there would be interesting. Thank you.

Myles O'Grady

Great. Thank you very much, Andrew. Let me comment on the rate and affordability, and then Mark will recap on the structural hedging in relation to rate sensitivity as well. So, back to my point from earlier against the backdrop of ECB rates up by 4.25%, we have been quite thoughtful and measured about how much of that we pass on to mortgage customers, driven of course by the reality that the ECB rates are increasing because of some concerns for inflation. So that's the reason why we passed on between 1.25% and 1.75% to fixed mortgage customers.

As part of our overall affordability assessment, we do stress each mortgage. We look at the customers' payment profile, their expenses, what they spend their money on. We stress the mortgage to see how they will perform in a higher rate environment. And again so far, we're quite pleased with the general affordability and behavior of our customers. I know Mark has called that out earlier, but it is worth reiterating, the macroprudential rules in Ireland have proven to be very successful in the context of, let's say, Bank of Ireland's three out of five mortgages have been written under macroprudential rules and they offer good protection both for customers and indeed for Bank of Ireland as well.

Mark Spain

Yes. Andrew, just on the NII sensitivity, so just the sensitivity to 100 basis points drop in rates were €380 million per material this morning that would compare to -- sorry, about €315 million for 100 bps drop in rates, that would compare to €380 million back in December. So that rate sensitivity has fallen. That's largely as a result of the increase in the structural hedge and that's what the structural hedge is designed to do is to reduce that NII sensitivity.

From here -- sorry, the other key point here is that relative to not having a structural hedge or materially lower structural hedge, we significantly reduce the NII sensitivity on the downside relative to that. So, ultimately that structural hedge is locking in value from here. The structural hedge, I would say, it's probably modest growth referencing growth in liabilities from here with one-seventh of the hedge rolling over for every year.

Andrew Stimpson

Okay. So, I appreciate that the hedge is what's reducing it, but -- so that might come down a bit as deposit betas rise I guess is what's in there, but you're not expecting that to come down pretty much further?

Mark Spain

The only thing it depends on the starting point and again the buffer that €315 million from today, that reflects the starting point of €350 million. It also reflects the depositor behavior experience up to this point, which as we've referenced in the call, has been pretty muted to-date.

Andrew Stimpson

Okay, sure. Thank you.

Myles O'Grady

Thank you, Andrew.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We will now take your next question. And the question comes from the line of John Cronin from Goodbody. Please go ahead.

John Cronin

Good morning, both. Thanks for taking my questions. First of all, can I have a go at unpacking the flat half-on-half guidance for business income in the second half? Could you maybe talk through how you would expect Wealth and Insurance, Retail Ireland and Corporate and Markets income to evolve? And I guess my key question, is the key reason for flat because you expect to see some down drift in Corporate and Markets related revenue?

My second question is just in the wake of the EBA stress test announcements and the results, is there any possibility of a softening of some of your Pillar 2 capital requirements in time on the back of that improved performance relative to the '21 stress test?

And then, finally, just to revisit subsequent to the prior question on the downside NII sensitivity, that €315 million for a minus 100 basis points parallel shift in rates, does that assume full pass-through of the lower rates to fixed mortgage customers in Ireland? Thanks.

Myles O'Grady

Okay. John, the line was a little bit bad, but we think we've got those questions. In relation to -- let me just offer a view on business income. I know Mark will want to add to it as well. Flat in the second half of the year is in the context of H1 being up 23%. So, we expect a strong performance in business income for 2023 really from a range of factors. Certainly, our Wealth and Insurance business performing quite well actually in the context of a relatively difficult market backdrop. So, AUMs were up by 7% and also net inflows increasing as well significantly.

On the retail side, as a consequence of bringing on board new customers last year, 240,000 current account customers last year, and indeed this year customer number is increasing by 7%, we expect retail fee income to be strong. It was up 5% in the first half of the year.

And on the stress test, we are very pleased with the outcome of the stress test, particularly in the context that it's representing the managerial actions that we have specifically taken over the last number of years, very mindful of ensuring our balance sheet is as strong as it can be. And clearly at this point, it is too early to translate that stress test outcome as positive as it is into capital requirements. Clearly, we'll have those discussions with our regulators in due course.

Mark, I don't know if you want to add to that.

Mark Spain

Maybe just, John, a little bit more color on the business income and come back to the downside NII sensitivity as well. So, as Myles said, we had strong performance in the first half of 23% versus H1, and that's really our strategy and action there. The RMC income is coming through in two lines, because we've moved our business banking activity from Retail Ireland to Corporate and Markets, so it's coming through in two lines.

The second thing, which makes things complicated, is that we're now reporting as is required under IFRS 17. But what we see there is that our Wealth and Insurance business, a pretty strong performance there in the first half. That performance is now more driven by the back book rather than necessarily sales in year, which for insurance products now get factored into the P&L over the life of those products. So, we're pleased with that.

The offset, we spoke about before about U.K. where we've got a fee expense there. The fee expense is higher in the half year and that reflects again the business doing well, because higher NII leads to higher partnership fees, which come through in this line. So that's a positive from a business perspective.

And then, Corporate and Markets, has that business banking growth, but there is lower corporate banking fees. That reflects our cautious approach to international corporate and property, which we spoke about, and also some cessation of business activity impacts.

Just on the downside NII, just a couple of things there. So that sensitivity, as you know, it's got a range of simplifying assumptions so that assumes instantaneous and parallel past movement in all interest rates. It's a theoretical exercise, so there are a few pieces there. The assets and liabilities pricing is mechanically linked. They are assumed to pass through. And there are a range of other assumptions, which we don't disclose for competitive reasons. But we believe although it's ultimately a theoretical exercise, it's hopefully helpful to the market unless you're thinking about our NII evolution.

John Cronin

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. I will now hand the call back for closing remarks.

Myles O'Grady

Thank you very much. And we look forward to meeting many of you and indeed our investors over the coming days. I hope you all have a very good day indeed. Thank you very much.

Mark Spain

Thanks, everyone.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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Bank of Ireland Group plc (BKRIF) Q2 2023 Earnings Call Transcript
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