CSPI - CSP Inc. (CSPI) Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript
2023-12-12 13:38:02 ET
CSP Inc. (CSPI)
Q4 2023 Results Conference Call
December 12, 2023 10:00 AM ET
Company Participants
Michael Polyviou - Investor Relations
Victor Dellovo - Chief Executive Officer
Gary Levine - Chief Financial Officer
Conference Call Participants
Joseph Nerges - Segren Investments
Presentation
Operator
Greetings, and welcome to CSPI's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2023 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode, and a question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference is being recorded.
Please note, this conference is being recorded. I will now turn the conference over to your host, Michael Polyviou, IR at EVC Group. Sir, the floor is yours.
Michael Polyviou
Thank you, Alex. Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining us to review CSPi's Fiscal 2023 Full Year Results, which ended September 30, 2023. The -- With me on the call today is Victor Dellovo, CSPi's Chief Executive Officer; and Gary Levine, CSPi's Chief Financial Officer. After Victor and Gary conclude your opening remarks, we will then open the call for questions.
Statements made by CSPi's management on today's call regarding the Company's business that are not historical facts may be forward-looking statements as the term is identified in federal securities laws. The words may, will, expect, believe, anticipate, project, plan, intend, estimates and continue as well as similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements.
Forward-looking statements should not be read as a guarantee of future performance or results. The Company cautions you that these statements reflect current expectations about the Company's future performance or events and are subject to several uncertainties, risks and other influences, many of which are beyond the Company's control, that may influence the accuracy of the statements and the projections upon which the statements are based.
Factors that may affect the Company's results include, but are not limited to the risks and uncertainties discussed in the Risk Factors section of the annual report on Form 10-K and the quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Further the statements are based on the information available at the time those statements are made and management's good faith belief as of the time with respect to future event. All forward-looking statements are qualified in their entirety by this cautionary stated, as CSPI undertakes no obligation to publicly revise or update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, after the date thereof.
With that, I'll turn it over to Victor Dellovo, Chief Executive Officer. Vic, please go ahead.
Victor Dellovo
Thanks, Michael, and good morning, everyone. Earlier this morning, we announced our fiscal 2023 full year results, and I'm pleased to report we achieved revenue growth of 19% compared to fiscal 2022. I believe our strong performance is due to several factors, including the sustained contribution of the Technology Solutions business, our ability to successfully convert a sizable portion of our backlog to revenue and our proactive decision to leverage our strong balance sheet to finance large customer orders.
Furthermore, we reported gross margin percentage of 34% and grew EPS well over 100% from prior year, all significant accomplishments that raises our confidence level that we can continue executing our strategy of transitioning the business to higher-margin products and services. Moreover, we are continuing to experience positive momentum to kick off the 2024 as we already achieved significant achievements in the technology solution and high-performance product businesses.
First, let me address the backlog issue, and then I will provide an overview of the TS business and then spend a few minutes highlighting some of our recent and exciting developments within the HPP business. As many of you already know, we entered fiscal 2023 with a level of uncertainty due to well-documented supply chain issues that impacted global economies. Specific to CSPi, the inability to receive key components from suppliers kept us from shipping orders to our new customers, raising our backlog to near record levels in dampening our revenue opportunities.
However, as the supply chain issue began to ease up during the year, we started receiving some of these key components that we're able to ship finished goods and reduce the backlog to a more normalized pre-pandemic level of approximately $7.6 million. I applaud the team's ability to remain engaged with the customers throughout this period. I believe our clients' loyalty demonstrates the value we bring to them because they recognize that the products and solutions are the most effective, cost-efficient answers to their critical needs.
Our performance throughout the fiscal 2023 was driven by continued performance of our Technology Solution or TS business, which grew compared to fiscal 2022. The success continues to be driven via customers increased use of implementation, installation and training capabilities. Regarding the UCaaS, it turned a corner in the second half of fiscal 2023, and it is now a profitable business. We believe we'll continue to see positive developments within the UCaaS as we move forward through fiscal 2024.
Now turning to our high-performance products and HPP business, we recorded total revenue of $6.9 million for the fiscal year compared to $3.8 million in fiscal 2022. The results were within our expectations. However, the level of optimism within the business is high and increasingly growing following the recent launch of AZT PROTECT. AZT's advancement allows us to offer our customers a giant leap forward in the evolution of cybersecurity solutions. AZT's performance surpasses what's available on the market today, and it's a new generation of endpoint application cybersecurity protection designed for both critical operational technology and IT environments.
The unique panning solution protects a line of organizations endpoints from a full spectrum of cyber attacks and intrusion techniques, including most advanced zero-day attacks, malware, ransomware, supply chain vulnerability, even those threats that are completely unknown to security teams. By deploying artificial intelligence capabilities, AZT, halts attacks before damage occurs, ensuring seamless operations without disruption or downtime. It lowers the risk code base of security vulnerabilities exploits on endpoint devices applications to near zero without the need of constant patching updates.
Developed internally, we knew AZT was going to be a game changer for the HPP business. So the team has significantly targeted several high-profile conferences and seminars to raise awareness of AZT, including the 18th Annual API Cybersecurity Conference, which was held in Houston earlier this month for oil and natural gas industry.
The Rockwell Automation Conference, which was also held last month in Boston was the world's premier industrial automation and digital transformation event. The ICS Cybersecurity Conference, which was held in Atlanta in October is the largest, longest running event series focused on industrial cybersecurity. Since 2000, the conference has gathered ICS cybersecurity stakeholders across various industries and attracts operational and control engineers, IT, government vendors and academics.
And then finally, the ManuSec U.S. Summit, which was held in October in Chicago. ManuSec is the premier conference for cybersecurity and manufacturing, addressing sectors drive towards digital and automation and how imperative it is to balance it with security.
We know this is a crowded field, so a visible on-site present at these and other events was critical and allowed the team to engage and communicate with key influencers and prospective clients, including Fortune 500 companies. The impression feedback is quite positive. And the comment we often hear from them is we see the need for something like AZT.
Subsequent to the end of fiscal 2023, we received orders from a Fortune 500 chemical manufacturing to protect its critical production application from all forms of attack, enabling production lines to continue running without disruption. We also received an order from a Western Intelligence Agency to protect its critical intelligence gathering and analysis operations from cybersecurity attacks. This new contract builds on ARIA cybersecurity, proven track record, improve security solutions for military and intelligent agencies around the world.
Additionally, we launched our AZT PROTECT solution in Australia via partnership with Logi-Tech a leading local managed security service provider. By adding AZT PROTECT to its portfolio, Logi-Tech can offer a groundbreaking service protecting critical applications and operational technology and IT environments such as manufacturing, mining and government.
To summarize, we gathered strong growth in our fiscal 2023 and position the Company for even greater success in coming years. Although the TS business has been the growth driver over the past few years, the emergence of AZT offers -- offering has changed the dynamics and gives us two businesses that can grow side-by-side and provide consistent growth with significant upside potential.
With that, I will now ask Gary to provide a brief overview of the fiscal year's financial performance.
Gary Levine
Thank you, Victor. For the fourth quarter ended September 30, we reported revenue of $15.3 million compared to $16.7 million in the year ago fiscal fourth quarter. We reported a significant revenue increase of 66% in last year's Q4 as we began to work down the record backlog, so the comparability represented a high bar.
For Q4, gross profit was $5.2 million or 33.8%, respectively. We also lowered compared to the year ago period. However, whereas the supply chain was responsible for some of the choppiness, we achieved significant annual growth in fiscal 2023 compared to fiscal 2022 as we reported revenue of $6.4 million, a 19% increase compared to $54.4 million in the fiscal year ago.
As Victor mentioned, this performance is due to the continued success of converting some of the older backlog, allowing us to deliver product to our customers. We reported gross profit of $21.9 million or 34% of sales compared to $18.8 million or 35% of sales in fiscal 2022. The slight decrease in gross margin compared to the year ago period was anticipated and due to the business mix and the lower margin products that had been in backlog. We continue to believe our annual gross margin will expand as the business transitions to a higher-margin product and services.
For the fourth quarter, our engineering and development expense was $700,000, down $150,000 from the year ago fiscal quarter with a reduction in outside contractors in not filling some open positions. Our SG&A costs for the fourth quarter was $4.8 million, similar to last year. For the full fiscal year, our engineering and development expense for the fiscal year was $3.1 million, relatively flat with comparison to the year ago period.
Our SG&A expenses in fiscal '23 were $16.9 million compared to $15.8 million in fiscal 2022 due to increased variable compensation for bonuses, sales commissions for sales -- higher sales as well as payroll and initial costs associated with unveiling and launching of the AZT which includes conferences, participation and hiring several salespeople.
We reported net income of $5.2 million or $1.09 per diluted share for the fiscal year September 30, 2023, and compared to net income of $1.9 million or $0.42 per diluted share for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2022. During the last quarter of the fiscal year 2023, the Company received an employment retention credit, ERC, of $2.1 million net of expenses. The ERC was not available in fiscal 2022.
We had a tax benefit of $0.5 million due to the release of the valuation allowance against our company's deferred tax assets. Included in the net income is stock compensation, a non-cash expense of $1.1 million. The Company had cash and cash equivalents of $25.2 million as of September 30, 2023, compared to cash and cash equivalents of $24 million as of September 30, 2022.
The cash and cash equivalents are considerably higher compared to cash and cash equivalents of $13.8 million for the quarter ended June 30, 2023, as significant cash flows were generated through the payment of receivables, including payment from financing sales provided to customers prior to fiscal year 2023.
We believe this robust financial position allowed us to successfully implement this approach. It yielded positive results, and we will entertain certain options if it meets our strictest criteria. I also want to highlight that the Board of Directors approved a quarterly dividend of $0.04 per share payable on January 9, 2024, to shareholders of record on the close of business of December 22, 2023.
With that, I will turn it over to the operator to take your questions.
Question-and-Answer Session
Operator
Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from Joseph Nerges with Segren Investments. Your line is live.
Joseph Nerges
See you must have shook up the market today because the market -- the stock is down like 3 points. So, it's in your press release. Let me explain what I think is going on. With a big drop in the backlog, people think that, obviously, sales aren't there going forward. That's the concern.
Yet in your press release, you issued you said that you thought there was Technology Solutions, which, of course, is the bulk of our sales right now is expecting a major contribution this year in '24. You're looking for good business with new customers and expanded existing customers. Is that what you're trying to convey that you're expecting -- expanding technical service -- Technology Solutions business segment?
Victor Dellovo
Yes, that's correct, Joe. We budgeted for a significant growth in 2024.
Joseph Nerges
So in effect, the drop in the backlog from last year to this year is not really going to cause a problem when you were expecting for '24 growth, at least in that segment of the -- in that division going forward?
Victor Dellovo
That's correct.
Joseph Nerges
The backlog in effect -- granted, it's down -- what was it 20 -- I forget what it was last year, it was $20 million or something like that, that we had because of the -- we couldn't get the -- a lot of the orders through the supply channel. That's number one. So, we're really not concerned. The backlog may be low, but businesses
Victor Dellovo
It's back to pre-pandemic levels. Basically, we were just trying to talk about where the backlog was, where it is because now it's not a factor any longer moving forward. It's pretty much business as usual for 95% of the products that we sell, and we're probably not going to be discussing it any further moving forward.
Joseph Nerges
And a point I guess I'm asking you, even though it's back to pre-pandemic levels, it has no effect on what we think is going to be business '24. We think it's sufficient to grow the business in that -- at least in the TS division.
Victor Dellovo
Correct.
Joseph Nerges
Second point on the of course the AZT product, that's dynamic product, and I don't think people realize how much that can contribute to the future of this company. You said you added salespeople and they're responsible for bringing in new business? Are we talking about new business beyond the two press releases were issued one on the chemical company, one on the Western Intelligent Agency business? Do we have questions beyond that?
Victor Dellovo
They're growing the pipeline right now, Joe.
Joseph Nerges
Okay. So we have a lot. And when we're talking about the pipeline, are we talking about customers that are testing the product at their facilities? I assume
Victor Dellovo
Some of them are doing POCs already. They’re large Fortune 500 companies. They are the largest companies out there, so the sales cycle might be a little longer, but they're quite engaged right from the beginning. A lot of them met him at the show. We talked to them and within a week or two, they wanted to discuss the product further and some of them are already looking to set up a POC either testing.
Yes, yes, proof of concept. But with the holidays, some of it's getting pushed a little bit to the first quarter just because of Thanksgiving and Christmas, but they're quite engaged, right from day one when we met him at the shows.
Joseph Nerges
Okay. Great. Well, that's understandable. Just the time of year we're at right now. Talking about the existing now, in the two press releases you issued, you never talked about the size of the contract. And I assume that most of these people are going to be paying on a monthly basis. That's the type of over a period of a number of years, do they contract it out. Is that correct? We're talking about not upfront payment for the software, mostly on a monthly basis?
Victor Dellovo
No, there -- the first units that we put in there were just to buy it outright. And then as we expand, these companies are so large, Joe, that 170 locations and it was whether we boil the ocean and try to take all 170 down, and that would take about a year to two years, they said, to get that processed? Or do we start seeding it in one or two of their locations and expand from there?
Like one of the government agencies were already talking to seven different locations. Some of them have had some money left over and they wanted to cut POs right away. So right now, it's about customer engagement, getting them to test it, buy it and evangelize when we need references moving forward?
Joseph Nerges
So in both cases, they're rolling out the software in segments, let's put it that way. You said in one case, you talked about 170 plants well.
Victor Dellovo
Unfortunately, we have to talk to all 170 plants because they all have separate budgets. So, we're going to knock one down at a time. But to get our product inside their environment, saying it's running, it's working, was one of the most important factors and we did it quickly, right, with less than 60 days from beginning to end.
Joseph Nerges
I guess going back in from an idea from a charge standpoint, I'm assuming we build on the basis of how many items are being -- how many devices are being protected or in the case of what you call endpoints, the more endpoints we protect the higher the bill?
Victor Dellovo
Correct .
Joseph Nerges
Okay. So, as we roll it out little by little supposedly the bill of increasing little by little, let's put it that way, as they expanding within their divisions.
Victor Dellovo
Yes. Some departments will have to purchase it outright and some of them will want to pay on a monthly basis or a yearly basis most likely, right? Sign a three-year deal and paid it each and every year.
Joseph Nerges
So in cases it depends on how the departments decide, in some cases, it's -- the departments will make the decision on whether they want to buy or we own the lease basically.
Victor Dellovo
Pretty much, yes.
Joseph Nerges
Okay. On the cash, I assume the cash -- a lot of the cash that we have short-term treasury bills or how do we have that going, Gary? Is that -- do you have a fair amount in our rolling over short-term treasuries or?
Gary Levine
Yes, we will them over and save that and stay in some money market funds. But yes, we're rolling them over short term.
Joseph Nerges
Okay. And Logi-Tech, hard are they doing. Now I realize that you just put a PR on that Australian partner. Have they been able to have the same, let's say, initial success that we're having as far as interest in Australia?
Victor Dellovo
Yes, they're generating opportunities that we're working with them hand-in-hand.
Joseph Nerges
Okay. All right. That's all I've got right now. It sounds like it was a great price. And of course, the AZT product has changed HPP dramatically from where I am sitting.
Victor Dellovo
Yes, we're excited. All the feedback has been positive. No one has said, oh, I don't see the value in this. I don't understand it. We're definitely changing people's, the way they look at securing endpoints in the application. So the conversations are happening frequently, and they're getting it.
Joseph Nerges
Yes. And just one more question. Australia is an example, but there should be -- there's got to be additional countries out there that are demanding the same kind of reporting requirements that are being required by U.S. and Australia. So, is there an opportunity now to establish, how can I say, similar operations from managed security service providers in these other countries, like U.K. example Germany?
Victor Dellovo
Yes. Of course, Joe. It's just the size of our organization kind of prohibits us moving as fast as we would like to, right? It's -- as I said, TS has been doing so well that it paid for all the development of this new product, but the HPP is truly a start-up organization, right, with a new product that we believe is game changing.
But yes, it's just a size right now, but we're working as hard as efficient as we possibly can to try to talk to as many people. And like I said, we've rolled it out and we did as many shows that we could get ourselves into. And the feedback was really, really good. And like I said, we have 50 opportunities that we're working right now just from those couple of shows that we did over the last couple of months.
Joseph Nerges
50 opportunities, is that what you said?
Victor Dellovo
Yes, over 50. Yes, over 50, yes.
Joseph Nerges
Over 50. Do we -- how many people do we have in the U.K? I know we have a very, very small sales force over there. We still have a couple of people over there.
Victor Dellovo
Yes, we do.
Joseph Nerges
And are they up the snuff on this? They really kind of like technology solution type salespeople, is that not correct as opposed to HPP salespeople?
Victor Dellovo
Correct.
Joseph Nerges
But they're familiar with the product.
Victor Dellovo
Yes. They all -- we cross-trained all our salespeople on AZT. So, they're able to at least ask the right questions and then engage the engineers on the AZT side when there's an opportunity and some of those opportunities that we're working right now came from the TS side.
Joseph Nerges
I'm sure, it is really exciting going forward, and I appreciate the time.
Operator
Our next question is coming from Mike Price, who is an investor. Sir, your line is live.
Unidentified Analyst
Can you give us an idea of how big you think the market opportunity is for AZT?
Victor Dellovo
Multibillion.
Unidentified Analyst
Okay. And that being said, it's nice that you're having conversations with 50 potential customers. But going back two quarters ago, you said that a problem CSPI has is a lack of name recognition. And last quarter, after the introduction of AZT, I asked the question of not having name recognition. Is it not better and more efficient to partner with somebody that does have name recognition?
And your response was that you've only been in the market for 30 days. So -- but the question now is do potential customers more than 50, no CSPI and potential competitors and potential partners. Is it not more efficient? Because a lot of times, the best product doesn't even get seed in the market because it's not the fastest introduced to the market.
Victor Dellovo
I agree with that. And we are talking to and we have signed some of the largest security resellers and integrators in the market space, and we started working opportunities with them. We definitely -- we use as much marketing money with all the shows and then we targeted the top 20 to 30 security-focused resellers, integrators, and we started talking to all of them.
Some of them we met at the shows that while we were there. They saw the need and actually some of them reached out to us directly on large, large opportunities they had in the health care industry, protecting Microsoft OS systems in Android that we're working in conjunction with them.
So, we are trying to get our name and using the reputation from these large security resellers as fast as possible. But they have a stringent -- they don't take on every single security partner. So we have, I think, been fortunate that two of the largest ones already signed contracts with us to represent AZT and ARIA.
Unidentified Analyst
Okay. Last quarter, I asked and I think Joe Nerges just asked also about using funds to buy Shares, and prior to today, the stock had doubled. Did you buy any shares during the quarter?
Gary Levine
No.
Victor Dellovo
No.
Unidentified Analyst
Okay. What's happening today, does this not provide an opportunity with $25 million in cash? I mean, the stock is down 25% today. I mean is this not in the thought process?
Victor Dellovo
It is in the thought process. We talked about it this morning, Gary and I.
Gary Levine
Yes.
Unidentified Analyst
Okay. And the final question I have, prior to today, it's great since the last conference call that the stock price has doubled. But what shows today is the small float in the liquidity. I couldn't sell a measurable number of shares to take a profit. And Victor, you couldn't then Joe Nerges certainly couldn't.
So, the question is the market cap here is, what, $90 million and looking at somebody like Dragos, who I assume as a competitor recently raised $200 million with a $1.7 billion valuation, It seems like a big discrepancy between the CSPI and somebody like that, where CSPI supposedly has a revolutionary product, and you think it's as good or better than anything out there. Can you address that and how we close the gap?
Victor Dellovo
We actually -- we saw -- we talked to Dragos while they were at the show, too. And the thing is that they're truly not a competitor. We will complement what they do. They have gaps and our product would actually complement with them. So, this -- we would love to talk to companies like that. There's really no one out there that's doing exactly what we're doing on the application, the way we're doing it at the bios core level.
Unidentified Analyst
Okay. So if you're not exactly like it, that seems that CSPI and AZT should have more value if, in fact, the market is aware of it with a multibillion dollar market opportunity. What am I missing here?
Victor Dellovo
You are not but like, the product was released end of July, and we're evangelizing and rolling it out as fast as possible.
Unidentified Analyst
Okay.
Victor Dellovo
Dragos has been doing it for years. So, they've been added a little longer than we have when it comes to this product.
Unidentified Analyst
No, no, no. No, I appreciate the fact that they've been doing it longer, but I'm talking about the discrepancy and the valuation. Sure, it might take you a while to get in there, but you're valued at $90 million and they're got a valuation of $1.7 billion. I mean that's a huge discrepancy. So, okay, well, it looks cheap to me here. It looks awfully cheap at 17.5%. So, okay, I appreciate your time. Keep up the work.
Victor Dellovo
Thank you. Have a great day.
Operator
Our next question is coming from Brett Davidson [ph], who is a private investor. Your line is live.
Unidentified Analyst
The AZT thing, so you can sell it -- you can do it on a subscription model. How long does it take to roll this out? So you sign a contract tomorrow, what's involved in rolling this out to a customer?
Victor Dellovo
What makes our product, which I've spoken in the past about is, we can be rolled out very, very quickly. We've done 1,000 endpoints in less than an hour. There's a little tweaking after the fact. But the way we roll our product out is like a driver. It goes on the system, then it expands and then it goes and looks at all the applications. You ask a few questions, and it starts protecting immediately within that, let's -- that a time frame you're up and running.
And there's a little tweaking that goes on, but very, very minor. When we rolled out the last couple -- a -- couple of hundred endpoints and it was done in less than 30 minutes. We built it in conjunction with customers' feedback and that was the biggest thing, especially when we developed it for the OT space that you cannot have downtime in manufacturing facilities at all. And that's -- that's the difference with our product. You roll it out. It does not need a reboot.
And that's really, really big compared to all the other products that kind of do what we do, but not really. You need a reboot. It takes a long time. It takes months to roll out and ours has done very, very quickly and efficiently.
Unidentified Analyst
And that adds tremendous expense in a manufacturing environment. Yes, I can see it would be a big advantage.
Victor Dellovo
Yes, I think that's a difference. A lot of times with other products, you would have to have those systems be taking down. And the way we roll it out, the system does not have to be taken down. It could still be working and doing what it needs to do in conjunction with us implementing our product inside that environment. No downtime.
Unidentified Analyst
So that ends up affecting the value proposition here because that's kind of like a hit expense and competitor product. So if you're rolling this out on top, let's say, it's a business with 10 sites. I mean is this something that the physical location matters, so you're going to do one site at a time? Or does this depend on what their IT infrastructure, how that's set up, and you can literally just blanket 10 locations at once?
Victor Dellovo
We could do 10 locations at once. We could do 100 locations at once. It does not matter. All we need is just access what they want us to do it or we could walk it through. The one rollout that we did with that government agency at that one location, we were not able to have any access to that whatsoever. It's a closed environment. And we just walked them through it and they -- within less than an hour where -- they were up and running and they had never touched the product in their life.
Unidentified Analyst
Now when you say you walk them through it, was this physical in sight? Or was this…
Victor Dellovo
No. No, we weren't no, just over the phone. We had no access to the site or do we have access to their systems?
Unidentified Analyst
So you guys don't even have to be physically present to walk them through.
Victor Dellovo
Correct.
Unidentified Analyst
Got it. So then all of the time sucked up in this process is all going to be in the sales cycle.
Victor Dellovo
On the sales cycle.
Unidentified Analyst
So once you get the dotted line, you're ready to go and it can roll this out.
Victor Dellovo
As fast as they rolled out we can help them.
Unidentified Analyst
So, I mean the press release is the past few weeks have been great. With 50 of these things in the cycle, I mean, is this something we can anticipate at maybe a more frequent basis that these things are going to be rolling out announcing these new relationships?
Victor Dellovo
The significant ones, I'm going to say, we're evangelizing as much as we can. We're trying to get people to see the announcements, some of these larger ones that we're working on, I'm definitely be announcing those as soon as they hit.
Unidentified Analyst
Got it. And the last thing I just want to touch on, I know that the cruise ship thing was still winding back up. Is that -- has there been any headway making getting that -- getting those jobs started back up?
Victor Dellovo
Yes. We started doing -- we started doing some cruise line work, again, in a little different aspect. They're doing a NAC solution. So we're starting to roll out at different locations the network access control. So yes, that business started picking up again, and we have people in Japan this week on some boats and so yes, it's not -- they gave us a nice schedule in the past, and that schedule hasn't come up.
It's more like, hey, I need you here in two weeks or three weeks. It's sporadic where the other ones were like, here is the next 12 ships, here's the next 12 days, this is when we need you. It was easy to plan for, and that's not happening. So we're doing business with them. It's just not as organized as it was once wise?
Unidentified Analyst
And maybe one more follow-up question. So the AZT thing, I saw the Western intelligence and we're talking about manufacturing and you also mentioned health care. Are there any other areas that kind of jump out where this would be a really good fit?
Victor Dellovo
It's really anywhere, right? Because when we first rolled out the announcement, it was -- we focus because we worked with -- I told you some large manufacturing companies. So we on the OT space, zero downtime when we rolled that out, we rolled it out into the Windows world there first, and then we rolled it out into the Linux world. So we have both different type of operating systems that we can support.
And one of our key factors compared to anybody who thinks they play in the space is that we go all the way back to XP in the early versions of Linux, right? Most companies are only doing one or two versions back, we're supporting all the way back. like I said, to XP. So that's definitely a game changer for us, especially in the OT space because a lot of these manufacturings don't upgrade their systems because, again, I mentioned zero downtime.
And now the latest version that we're rolling out right now is for the IT environment. to where it allows patching, we can schedule things. So we're rolling that out as we speak. You probably see and I'm not saying now, but you'll see an announcement that we're also rolling out a full product line version of AZT.
Unidentified Analyst
And that would be for like data centers and
Victor Dellovo
Correct. Yes.
Unidentified Analyst
So that's going to be a significant number of points that you guys could hit.
Victor Dellovo
Correct, correct. We're talking to some financial institutions right now. We're also going to talk to our managed service customers that we're supporting right now about potentially increasing their monthly spend by rolling out AZT on their IT servers to protect their application at the core level.
Unidentified Analyst
That's quite a few endpoints.
Victor Dellovo
Yes, quite a few endpoints. Yes, we're going to talk to everyone of our managed service customers. Some of them will say, yes, someone will say no. Just depends on budgets, but that's what's going on right now with these conversations happening as we speak with some of our larger MSP customers.
Unidentified Analyst
Well, and look forward to the continued success here.
Victor Dellovo
Thanks. Have a good one. Happy holidays.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] We have a question from Paul Scolardi [ph] who is a private investor.
Unidentified Analyst
I have several questions. The first one is you have a revolutionary unique product in this AZT. You're a smaller unknown company. And why not go partner with Dragos or even like a Palo Alto or one of the big cybersecurity companies that have the relationships that can get this revolutionary product out there quicker than you can on your own? That's my first question.
Victor Dellovo
That's I think I mentioned it earlier. We are talking to all types of the manufacturers, right, people who are in that space. I can't mention who we're talking to now, but there's quite a few conversations going on with companies that are in the security space that we would complement. We would go side by side with we don't compete with, and we would enhance the overall security performance in every potential environment. So yes, those conversations are going on right now.
Unidentified Analyst
Okay. And I assume if something happens, we're going to hear about it, correct?
Victor Dellovo
You will hear about every exciting news that comes across the board, I hope you guys see that I'm trying to share all the information as it comes across as soon as possible.
Unidentified Analyst
Well, yes, I mean if I may be really honest and with all respect, you have done an excellent job, I think, with press releases up until today. And I think while we're seeing the reaction in the stock right now is because you did a poor job of explaining the excitement that you have now on the call and the opportunity like the reseller contracts the going in -- that this can go into the networks, all network endpoints also, the massive TAM. You did a poor job on the press release, capturing the excitement on AZT.
So my question is, the number one is part of your job is execution and you're doing a great job at that without question. But you also have a responsibility to shareholders in the fact that you're a small company with a very small float, and nobody knows about this company, the story or this opportunity.
I like to say you're at the Super Bowl and nobody knows that you're playing. So what is your strategy to enhance shareholder value since with the poor press release today, the shareholders are suffering for what's a massive opportunity.
Like right now, the stock is at onetime sales plus cash, it's profitable. It seems a dividend. It has a great balance sheet and it has a really massive opportunity in front of it. So how are you going to get the story and connect to Wall Street, this massive opportunity? Number one is I hope we're going to hear about every contract, say, why don't we hear about all these reseller contracts?
And if you look in the news lately, you've got utilities of being attacked, water utilities, electric utilities, China attacks in the last 24 hours, there's massive highlight on operational technology cybersecurity.
You have a unique radical product. Nobody knows about it, so shareholders will suffer until that connection is need. So I want to know what you're going to do different in going forward to get this story connected to wall street for to enhance shareholder value because it's a great story, but nobody knows about it?
Victor Dellovo
Yes. I think we talked about that this whole conversation, right? We're doing events. I'm talking to partners. We're talking to distribution lines where as I have said, the shareholders I think their expectations sometimes may be a little bit out of whack, off-line, where they want a dividend, they want it to be increased, they want us to have earnings per share, and they want us to self-fund a startup, right?
So it's at this stage of the game, we enhanced our marketing budget by 10x that we normally did. We hired salespeople that are industry leader salespeople that frankly, cost a lot, right? But we figured we'd get better quality. We're able to get into the oil and gas, talk to some of these large manufacturers and companies oil gas companies directly that they had relationships in the past. And yes, what we're doing right now.
So -- and we're using the largest resellers in the security space with those conversations. But as I mentioned, these companies get -- their doors get knocked on constantly on small security companies, right? I think there's over 6,000 small security companies out there wanting them to represent them.
So, we have to go through a 100-page form that we have to fill out, why we're different is the whole thing, and they don't want to pick up a product that company is going to be out of business in a year or two because they're not funded correctly. There's a lot that goes into it. It's not just about ringing the doorbell saying, would you want to buy some cookies. I'm here. So, there's a lot that goes into that.
Unidentified Analyst
No, my question more was your communication with the Street in getting the story that's execution. You're doing a great job there. Like I'm talking about why did doing press releases that you got some good new resellers. We don't know about that. You have 50
Victor Dellovo
Yes, but these are hot off the presses, right? We had a call immediately while these are -- literally the ink's still drying on some of these things. So you'll see things rolling out, but we were having this press conference today, and I know a lot of this would be coming out today. And you'll see a lot of things coming out in the next two or three, four weeks and some -- hopefully some exciting news on some opportunities that are closing.
Unidentified Analyst
Okay. Yes. And I think that's where taking on a strategic investor even with a big name with -- and it sounds like you're talking to those. I think that would be a great way as well to give you guys the name and the resources to rapidly expand this because you have such a low structure, you're selling software, it's not going to take a lot of sales like it would for another company to drop a lot of EPS on the bottom line.
Last question, obviously, it's a small equity structure. At some point in the future, would you consider a forward stock split funds can have the ability to buy more shares? And maybe it's not whatever the right time is to think about something. Is that something that you consider?
Victor Dellovo
Yes. We've talked about that at the Board level at every meeting what our options are. So yes, we would consider everything, and that's one of the things that we've talked about.
Unidentified Analyst
Right. Yes. Okay. We're using a great job on the execution. And honestly, on the press release up until today, I think you did a poor job of getting the AZT opportunity in the press release today. But that's not fatal because it's -- what's more important is that the opportunity is there, and it's super exciting.
So I just hope the communication is going to be very clear and consistent. I think consistent communication is important. These small cap companies want to run -- if you want to run it like a private company, nobody is going to know you're at the Super Bowl.
So great job on execution, and I hope we're going to hear a lot more on AZT to really correct the lack of excitement in the press release today. But you corrected that in a lot of ways on the call, but we -- now people have to get the story out, so Wall Street connects with it. So thank you very much.
Victor Dellovo
Fair enough. Thanks for your feedback. Appreciate it.
Operator
Our next question is coming from John Crotty [ph], who is an investor. Your line is live.
Unidentified Analyst
I got to tell you, I really enjoyed that last back and forth with you and Paul because those were some of my questions. I'd like to just kind of turn and talk on a more technical side now.
As Paul mentioned, there's a lot of headline news out there with all the cyber attacks, especially with China, Taiwan, Ukraine, Russia, what interested me the most was the fact the way they're breaking through the firewall, they have been a harder time coming through. I'm speaking more technical now.
But I think you guys are sitting in a potential sweet spot. If I understand this properly, AZT is deployed on the other side of the firewall, where it's listening all the time is employees are now being the lead target for producing the cyber threats, whether it's through a UBS or through a personal computer plugged into the network.
And I'm saying that because I noticed you were saying the word air gapped quite a lot. And to me, that means it's almost like it's a self-contained network without a direct link or constant link to the Internet. I'm just hoping you can maybe explain more to the rest of the world because that's a real serious way of breaking in now. And I believe that's how we've seen some certain nuclear reactions go down, if you could clarify that and give me a little more understanding.
Victor Dellovo
Okay. I'll do my best on the technical side. So where we reside is on the -- in the servers, right, on the core of the servers where it's a driver that gets installed, and it's about 40 meg, very, very small, uses 1% or 2% CPU utilization. And what happens is once that gets installed, it expands and it looks at every single application.
Now we're talking to some customers right now that are testing it on literally over 1,000 systems that are running 1,100 applications at one time. And it goes out, it looks at all 1,100 applications. And then that's it's -- the person has looked at it and say, is it a viable application? Yes, it is. This is where we're at.
At that point, it's not going to allow anything else besides what's installed to be executed on that. So if someone tries to get in and because the biggest thing is when end users open up with the executables, right? And then all of a sudden, then they're inside the system and then everything goes, haywire at that point.
So, we're at the very beginning on the core and that's where we start protecting and that's where we're looking at all the applications and how we protect all those applications. And then after that, that's where it's the perfect picture at that point. And we stopped everything immediately at that stage.
Unidentified Analyst
Okay. And that makes sense. Is that sitting in the NVIDIA chip? Or is it just a software install with the driver?
Victor Dellovo
It's just a software install in the driver. So, it's about 40 meg.
Unidentified Analyst
Oh, small.
Victor Dellovo
Very, very small.
Unidentified Analyst
And one last question. I'm sorry. With the AI attached to it, is it self-learning? Does it retain? Or does it learn? Or how does that happen?
Victor Dellovo
Well, yes, it looks at it and then it looks at what the customer's environment and what's correct for that customer, and that's what the perfect model is. And then everything else that is not there, that's when it stops it. And then, we can run code against it that will allow certain things to come through after the fact if we see, you know, what, this is the correct new environment, what it should look like?
Unidentified Analyst
So you're starting at a static perfect world and what's different from the tomorrow or the next hour. That makes total sense.
Operator
Our final question today is coming from Brett Davidson [ph], who is an investor. Sir, your line is live.
Unidentified Analyst
Back again. I just wanted to hop on a soapbox here for a minute. I understand the sentiment of some of the other callers and everybody would love to see the share price to skyrocket and this to become an overnight success.
But I think patience is probably a pretty good idea at this point. I would love to see just rapidly adopted. And I think you guys are -- got your nose to the grindstone trying to push this forward. But at the same time, I have realistic expectations that going to -- it's not going to happen overnight. So, I'll step back down and thanks again, and we'll talk to you next quarter.
Operator
Thank you. As we have reached the end of our question and answer session, I will now turn the call back over to Mr. Dellovo for any closing remarks.
Victor Dellovo
Thank you. As always, I want to thank our shareholders for their continued interest and support. Our success throughout the fiscal '23 has given us momentum heading into fiscal 2024 as we're already off to a good start with recent AZT client engagements.
CSPI has always had a good reputation within the industry. The launch of AZT strengthens this view, and I believe will allow us to engage and sit at the table with Fortune 500 companies.
Gary and I look forward to sharing our progress in fiscal 20,241st quarter in February. Until then, be well, stay safe and enjoy the holiday season.
Thank you.
Gary Levine
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This does conclude today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. And we thank you for your participation.
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