FLGT - Fulgent Genetics Inc. (FLGT) Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

Fulgent Genetics, Inc. (FLGT)

Q4 2022 Earnings Conference Call

February 28, 2023 16:30 ET

Company Participants

Melanie Solomon - Investor Relations

Ming Hsieh - Chief Executive Officer

Brandon Perthuis - Chief Commercial Officer

Paul Kim - Chief Financial Officer

Conference Call Participants

Tyler Anderson - Piper Sandler

Presentation

Operator

Hello, and welcome to the Fulgent Genetics Q4 and Fiscal Year 2022 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

It's now my pleasure to turn the call over to Melanie Solomon, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Melanie Solomon

Thanks, Kevin. Good afternoon, and welcome to the Fulgent Genetics fourth quarter and full year 2022 financial results conference call. On the call are Ming Hsieh, Chief Executive Officer of Fulgent; Paul Kim, Chief Financial Officer of Fulgent; and Brandon Perths, Chief Commercial Officer of Fulgent. The company's press release discussing the financial results is available on the Investor Relations section of the company's website, www.goldengenetics.com. A replay of this call will be available shortly after the call concludes on the Investor Relations section of the company's website.

Management's prepared remarks and answers to your questions on today's call will contain forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements represent management's estimates based on current views and assumptions, which may prove to be incorrect. As a result, matters discussed in any forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and changes in circumstances that may cause actual results to differ from those described in the forward-looking statements. The company assumes no obligation to update any of the forward-looking statements that may make today to reflect actual results or changes in expectations. Listeners should not rely on any forward-looking statements as predictions of future events and should listen to management's remarks today with the understanding that actual events, including the company's actual future results, may be materially different in what is described or implied by these forward-looking statements. Please review the more detailed discussions related to these forward-looking statements, including the discussions of some of the risk factors that may cause results to differ from those described in these forward-looking statements contained in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the previously filed 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2021, and subsequently filed reports, which are available on the company's Investor Relations website.

Management's prepared remarks, including discussions of earnings and earnings per share, contain financial measures not prepared in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States or GAAP. Management has presented these non-GAAP financial measures because it believes they may be useful to investors for various reasons, but they should not be viewed as a substitute for or superior to the company's financial results prepared in accordance with GAAP. A -- please see the company's press release discussing its financial results for the fourth quarter and full year of 2022 for more information, including the description of how the company calculates non-GAAP income and earnings per share and a reconciliation of these financial measures to income and earnings per share, the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures.

With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Ming.

Ming Hsieh

Thank you very much, Mel. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining our call today. I will start with some comments on the quarter and the year. in Brandon will review our product and go-to-market updates from the first quarter, and Paul will conclude with the financials and our 2023 outlook before taking your questions. Looking at the fourth quarter, we exceeded our revenue guidance, reflecting 97% growth in our core business compared to 2021. I -- we have integrated our recent acquisitions and are seeing those benefits in our annual results.

For 2022, our crop businesses grew across all diagnostic segments, precision diagnosis, anatomic pathology and pharma services with the momentum in oncology and reproductive service. With the informed diagnosis businesses bolstered our capability in anatomic potholes and adding since revenue, we will see pressure on our bottom line in the near term, which probably will address. However, in long term, we believe this acquisition will make a good strategy stand for us. We continue to be the leader in precision technology due to our NGS platform capabilities. An example of our successful CO19 testing program between 2020 and 2022, led by our $40 million CDC/NGSwiren tracking contract, Fujian delivered 19.3 million RT-PCR coding test generated over $1.7 billion in revenue for Project with the pandemic largely behind, we're not inhibiting additional COVID revenue in 2023. We are proud of what we scaled our business so quickly and contribute so minimum to the testing efforts to fight the anemic -- we're seeing a similar opportunity to scale our platform to address the growing demand by our customers for our baking carry screening test.

Today, we announced the expansion becomes, which is branding will talk more about it, and we are anticipating associated annual growth of more than 300% in decent sales as we grow this portion of our business. We believe this activity will further secure our leadership position in NGS, and it is an important factor in our annual guidance provided to date. For 2023, our revenue guidance of $240 million, assuming 32% growth in our core business. driven by continued growth across all the areas of our banknote business, including expansion and oncological carrier screening through been 787 announced today. Through our internal efforts and those of our lab partners, we are leveraging our propriety NGS platform to broad applications fueled by our ongoing R&D effort, we have a long runway of opportunity in the core business and in same as a continued and dependable source of revenue and growth for Hogan in the years ahead.

In the fourth quarter, we announced the acquisition of Fosun Pharma, we believe this acquisition has the potential to gradually transform forging from a genetic Sigma services business into a fully integrated precision medicine company focused on oncology. We joined by our team of talent individuals, integrating our company to address the continuum of care and that we believe begins with diagnosis and patient care and monitoring. ForjanPharme has developed a non-encapsulation and target therapy platform technology designed to improve therapeutic window and pharmacokinetic profile for both new and existing cancer drug. Our lead drug candidate, FID 07 has achieved proof of concept for the treatment of numerous cancers, including head and neck amply pancreatic, lung and breast. We continue to encourage the early data from this program and are working on clinical path forward, including additional clinical trials toward approval. We're fully -- we have full control of our manufactured process and can be very efficient.

Given the current -- we have fully vetted the GMP nanomaterials production plans, operating with experts and signed for now integrating into our organization. We have submitted updated clinical Phase Ib data to ASCO for presentation at the 2023 annual meeting in June. We look forward to share additional progress on the pharma business as we move throughout the year. We ended 2022 with a strong cash position, affording us a flexibility to pursue additional strategic opportunities as they arise.

Earlier this year, we were pleased to expand our Board of Directors with a edition of Regi growth. Regis device business skill set and the global perspective that we believe will inevitable to our Board. We entered a new chapter in precision medicine with our current acquisition, Her expertise as a leader and officer in very senior roles and with clinical and regulatory functions, particularly from for 13 years at Masco will add important insights into our business. as we advance our vision to build a solid platform and that provides a comprehensive solution and services across cancer care continues from early detection, diagnostics, monitoring, drug discovery and development. Over the year, we have expanded and strengthened our Board, adding additional expertise in diagnostics, therapeutics drug development and commercialization.

Now, I'd like to thank our employees and shareholders for your support being that was a transitional and transformative year for forging. I would look forward to the years ahead and the momentum we are creating within our combined business.

I'll turn over the call over Brandon, our Chief Commercial Officer, to talk about our Diagnostics business results during the fourth quarter.

Brandon Perthuis

Thanks, Ming. With COP19 mostly behind us as well as our integration efforts for our acquisitions, we are able to intensely focus our efforts on our base business. We exceeded our expectations for the fourth quarter driven by an outperformance in our reproductive health business line and our Pharma Services division. At a high level, our core revenue was $55 million in the fourth quarter compared to $28 million in the same period the prior year and $56 million in the third quarter of 2022.

Starting with our Beacon expanded carrier screening product. For some time, we knew we had a successful product in service. stacked up against competitive products in the field, Beacon frequently excels as it relates to detection rates, our ability to discern pseudogenes, reliable copy number calls with our proprietary CNV exon algorithm plus other features. Our optimized workflow for variants with gene interference has been validated and externally published as a method for analysis of genes with pseudogene interference and/or sequence homology issues, allowing for improved testing accuracy. This method also optimizes the turnaround time and reduces the need for unnecessary confirmatory testing to identify point mutations, copy number variance and gene conversion events in genes with pseudo gene interference that other labs may not be able to detect.

Using this pipeline, we can quickly distinguish positive and negative cases with NGS sequence misalignment, avoiding testing delays due to redundant confirmatory testing. Most bioinformatic methods do not discriminate genomic regions with extensive homology. This can lead to false negative or false positive variant calls and/or produce incorrect copy number calls due to misalignment of Reed. Our bioinformatic algorithms compare read depth between homologous regions to identify sequence misalignment. In terms of the panel content, we have been offering one of the largest carrier-spending panels on the market, customizable up to approximately 430 genes.

Included in our panel are all of the American colleagues of Medical Genetics and Genomics, ACMG, Tier 3 G, which ACMG published in their last practice guidelines for carrier screening, recommending that all presentations and those planning of pregnancy, we offer this set of genes as an equitable pan-ethnic screening approach. The ACMG list includes genes with a carrier frequency of greater than 1 in 200 for autosomal recessive conditions and disease prevalence of greater than 140,000 for excellent conditions. This totals 113 genes. Our Beacon panel includes all of these with most major competitors typically only covering between less than 60% to 90%.

Historically, we were not able to fully leverage our Beacon product without managed care contracts. However, now armed with in-network coverage, we are seeing tremendous momentum. Our monthly carrier streaming volume is setting company records only second to what we saw with COVID-19 testing. In addition to our direct sales, we have also partnered with other large national labs to outsource some of their carrier screening tests to Fulgent. And finally, we announced this afternoon, we have launched the new Beacon 787. This further expands our capabilities and provide the most comprehensive test available today.

Turning to Pharma Services. Another area with big momentum -- while we do not discuss our client name due to confidentiality and competitive reasons, we are proud to say that we now work with 6 of the top 10 pharma companies in the United States. In addition, we are working with 3 of the largest global CROs to perform NGS testing. With the acquisitions of Inform Diagnostics and CSI, we were able to further broaden our offering to our pharma clients by adding tests such as IAC, fish, for cytometry, et cetera. Recently, our Pharma Services launched a powerful solution for spatial phenotyping using multiplex immunofluorescent. The speed and accuracy of advanced digital imaging technology, combined with the precision of multiplex immunofluorescent allows you to quickly assess phenotypes in a variety of cell types. This technology, along with our experienced scientific team allows more custom solutions for our clients and their drug programs.

We anticipate continued momentum in this space as we build new partnerships, drive deeper relationships with existing partners and continue to launch new services. While slightly tangent to pharma services, but in a similar scope of work, we have partnered with a large DTC testing company to sequence thousands of human genomes. We believe our quality test menu, turnaround time and cost structure makes us an attractive solution for B2B relationships as well as our core pharma services clients. We are pleased to report that Fujian Oncology regionally launched in the second quarter of 2022, has become one of the fastest-growing segments of our business. Our oncology portfolio launched under the brand name Lumara includes our marquee product, Lumara expanded NGS for solid tumors, Lumira comprehensive hematology profile, a full menu of pathology and molecular assays and a suite of NGS germline test. This full-service approach gives Fulgent a unique one-stop shop provider position in the face of precision diagnostics.

To further differentiate our offering, we will be expanding the Lumira menu in a few weeks to include a comprehensive teaming NGS profile. Lumira hem-NGS will be positioned as a disruptive 670 gene profiles that will include analysis across mutation type and simultaneous analysis of DNA and RNA, allowing for optimal detection of fusion genes in addition to indel and SMB. This panel recently received MolDx approval, robust coverage determination and a CMS reimbursement rate of approximately 2,850. Our new heme profile will further position Pulsion Oncology as a leader in a dynamic space, giving us a competitive advantage over the many single assay or single technology providers in precision diagnostics.

We anticipate continuing to expand our oncology portfolio throughout 2023, and Fulgent Oncology aimed to be the undisputed leader in oncology, specialty testing and precision diagnostics in the U.S. A quick update on the sales team, the overall head count remains mostly unchanged. However, we have done intense training so that our national sales team is better able to handle multiple product lines and to look for opportunities to cross-sell. This is showing early signs of success as we have seen legacy Fulgent sales reps be able to close anatomic pathology sales, for example. We remain open to expanding the sales team over time and are always looking for key additions to our team as talent presents. One area that may expand a bit more rapidly is reproductive health. We have a small team there. However, we are seeing huge momentum in this space.

In addition, we have ongoing R&D to launch new products and services or reproductive health. Depending on the near-term momentum and the timing of our product launches, there is a possibility we could do an expansion in the summer. Coming out of the pandemic, we believe we find ourselves in a very strong position as we continue to see consolidation and even some demise of companies in our space, our position continues to get stronger, still armed with a healthy amount of cash, we continue to look for both opportunities for organic growth as well as M&A. We are excited to enter 2023 with a wind in our sales, and we look forward to another great year.

I'll now turn the call over to Paul Kim, our Chief Financial Officer. Paul?

Paul Kim

Thanks, Brandon. Full year revenue totaled $619 million compared to $993 million in 2021, exceeding our overall guidance of $611 million. GAAP income was over $143 million at $4.63 per share. Revenue in the fourth quarter totaled $68 million compared to $252 million in the fourth quarter of 2021, exceeding our overall fourth quarter guidance by approximately $60 million. We are no longer reporting billable tests as we believe that revenue is a better measure of how the business is progressing rather than volume. Breaking down revenue a bit further, roughly $13 million came from COVID-19 testing in Q4 compared to our guidance of $8 million. Revenue from our core business totaled $55 million, which exceeded our guidance of $52 million and grew 97% year-over-year.

Gross margin was 19.2%, down 56 percentage points year-over-year and down 24 percentage points sequentially. The reduction in gross margin was, again, due to test mix, including higher costs associated with our core genetic testing portfolio, including pathology testing and also due to inventory reserves and our accelerated equipment depreciation related to COVID-19.

Now turning to operating expenses. Total GAAP operating expenses were $49.5 million for the fourth quarter, up from $45.7 million in the third quarter of 2022. Non-GAAP operating expenses totaled $38.7 million, up from $37 million in the third quarter of 2022. Non-GAAP operating margin decreased 45 percentage points sequentially to a negative 34%. While the expense structure of our legacy Fulgent business remains lean, we have incurred a number of incremental expenses as a part of our recent acquisitions as expected. So we have made significant investments in people, infrastructure and operations to support our growth and these investments are putting pressure on our operating margins. We remain confident that these investments will translate into demonstratable ROI and drive outsized future growth of our core business. At the same time, we're pleased with our ability to still generate positive cash flow during this transformative time for our business.

Adjusted EBITDA for the fourth quarter was a negative $15.1 million compared to a positive $158.8 million in the fourth quarter of 2021. On a non-GAAP basis and excluding equity-based compensation expense, intangible asset amortization, restructuring costs and acquisition costs related to Fulgent Pharma, the loss for the quarter was $14.2 million or $0.48 per share on a 29.6 million weighted average shares outstanding. Now turning to the balance sheet. We ended the fourth quarter with approximately $872 million in cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities, including investment pending settlements. We generated $33.2 million of cash from operations during the quarter despite the significant investments we made in our business for the quarter.

I would also like to highlight that we were active with our share repurchase program in the fourth quarter. We repurchased over 815,000 shares of our common stock at an average cost of 35.65 under the stock repurchase program announced in March. As of December 31, 2022, a total of approximately $175.7 million remained available for future purchases of our common stock under the repurchase program. Now moving on to our outlook for 2023. We will not be guiding total revenue for the company without coma testing revenues. In other words, the guidance that we have provided to $240 million as well as the guidance for the first quarter, the solely for core revenues.

We expect total revenues to be approximately $20 million in 2023, representing core growth of 32% year-over-year. Given the tough comps this year for revenue, we want to provide more information on what we have been calling core revenue or the rest of the Diagnostics business ex coded. We expect growth this year in all areas of our core business, including precision diagnostics, anatomic pathology and pharma services. We will reference these 3 areas of our business going forward as we talk about our revenue trends. Precision diagnostics includes all of our clinical NGS revenue, oncology, reproductive services, rare disease, neurogenetics, B2B relationships with labs and our business in China. Current strength in this segment points to reproductive services and oncology as Brandon and then both discussed.

Given certain lab arrangements, there may be variability from quarter-over-quarter. Anatomic Pathology includes the business we have integrated from informed diagnostics, which has strong growth in 2022 that we expect to continue in 2023, particularly in urologic and derma pathology, including digital pathology. Pharma services include sequencing as a service, which we sell to our Pharmaceutical business partners, and it's dependent on these relationships, so it may be lumpy from quarter-to-quarter. We've been building on this business and expect consistent growth. The expected 2023 revenues from these 3 areas are estimated as follows: $114 million from Precision Diagnostics, $113 million from Anatomic Pathology and the remaining $13 million from Pharma Services. Given the nature of these businesses and our guidance provided today, we're comfortable with the growth projections we have given.

Looking at margins going forward, given the non-covenant acquired revenue profile of the company, we will see gross margins coming down. This is due to the absence of revenues from COVA-19 testing as well as a larger contribution from Anatomic Pathology revenues, which are lower margin than our corporate average. We expect to see lower operating margins in the quarters ahead as we integrate and further invest resources and our recent acquisitions. Long term, our foundational technology platform supports a strong margin profile, and we will continue to manage our spending with discretion to drive operating leverage.

For the full year 2023, utilizing an estimated 28% tax rate and a share count of $31 million, we expect non-GAAP loss of approximately $1.25 per share for our shareholders, excluding stock-based compensation, amortization of intangible assets, restructuring costs as well as other onetime charges. Last quarter, when we acquired the pharma business, we said we were reporting this business separately. Revenue from this business is not anticipated in our 2023 guidance, and we expect associated cash burn for this business of approximately $15 million to $17 million this year, which is included in our EPS guidance provided today.

Overall, we have strengthened our core business and bolstered our portfolio through strategic acquisitions, and we see good momentum ahead.

Thank you for joining our call today. Operator, you may open it up for questions.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Certainly. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is coming from Dan Leonard from Credit Suisse.

Unidentified Analyst

This is Louie [ph] on for Dan Leonard. I think first question on the guidance. I think previously, we were talking about a $200 million baseline revenue for core Fortune. So just wondering what is the difference, like what are the growth drivers on the 23 guidance of the $240 million?

Paul Kim

Yes, that’s an excellent question. So first, comment on the numbers, and I’ll turn it over to Ming and Brandon who can talk about where they see growth and penetration within certain markets based on our overall capabilities. So we talked about having a core revenue base of approximately $240 million. And given what we’re seeing based on the prospects of our core business, our guidance is $240 million for the year. Now one of the things that actually surprised us during the fourth quarter is the stickiness of our core revenues, and that’s giving us additional confidence in our ability to achieve at $240 million. And the other thing that happened, right, during the quarter, and we stripped out completely is COVID revenues. We think that there will be some core revenues that we get in 2023. But for the purposes of this earnings call and the strategic focus of our company, we strip that out. A little bit more color from a numbers perspective on our core revenues. We anticipate Q1, as we stated in the press release, to be approximately $56 million for the core revenues. And regardless of like seasonality that we might have for the parts of our business, we see the momentum behind our core revenues increasing throughout the course of the year. But I’ll turn it over to Brandon, who can talk more about the areas that we’re excited about that gives us confidence within the 240.

Brandon Perthuis

Yes, certainly. Thanks, Paul. Thanks for the question. We're seeing strength across all business lines as we've now broken them out a bit to give some more granularity -- but in particular, we're seeing strong growth in reproductive health as well as our Fulgent oncology. Now granted Polin Oncology is coming off a base of essentially 0. It's a new product launch for us that happened in 2022. But the reproductive health space, we've been in for some time. However, we didn't have the contracts we needed to really penetrate that market. So we are seeing tremendous momentum in reproductive health. There's been some market dynamics that have opened up some tremendous opportunities for Fulgent. But both of those areas are showing tremendous momentum. So I think we have a lot of confidence in the guidance for 2023 and look forward to delivering on it as the year progresses.

Unidentified Analyst

Thought it that's...

Melanie Solomon

Sorry, go ahead.

Ming Hsieh

Yes. Adding the comments from both Paul and Brandon, I do see the long-term investment from Poten's R&D team into the artificial intelligence and data mining technique, I do see the continue to see the benefit for us to provide the leadership in the NGS space and continue to fill the technology, which would provide our revenue growth.

Unidentified Analyst

Got it. That's super helpful. Brennan, I think just one follow-up on the contracts. So do you have any updates on the contract roll up? I think in the last call, you expect everything to be done by end of 2022. Is that still on track? Or like can you give us any color on that?

Brandon Perthuis

It's not entirely done. We've made tremendous progress there, but it was an incredible amount of contract we had to work through. So it will still be some time before 100% of those are rolled up. That said, the momentum we're seeing in the business is closely tied to the progress we've made around the contracts. As Mike mentioned, we're expecting, I say to say explosive growth in 2023 as it relates to carrier screening, that would not be possible. It's not for the leverage we now have with those contracts. So rolling them up, merging them together with the different entities, still a work in progress, but the progress we've made has been meaningful and has really helped us grow business in the back half of the fourth quarter and Q1 is off to a fantastic start.

Unidentified Analyst

Got it. One final question for me. It's very exciting to see you guys launching a new Hispanic carrier screening panel. But at the same time, we also heard from the industry that there are some uptake in denials from some of the commercial insurers on the reimbursement. So wondering if you have any color on that? Or do you see that trend happening? Or do you expect any pressures in 2023?

Brandon Perthuis

Well, I want to make it clear that we offer expanded carriers printing panels or caressing panels that range from 1 gene, all the way up to the new large panel 787, and we allow our clients to customize anywhere in between. However, we do see a trend towards more larger panels as we want to look across pan-ethnic populations for rare diseases where the couple may be a carrier. Certainly, there are some payers that consider expanded carrier screening as investigational experimental or unproven. But we think that's very temporary. Certainly, clinicians have embraced expanded carrier screening. It is, for the most part, standard of care in a reproductive setting. The payers perhaps are a bit behind as it relates to some of the coverage. But it's a minimal amount of payers out there that have not embraced the spending carrier screening. And there's multiple organizations and companies that continue to educate and work with the payers as well as multiple academic societies that continue to update the guidelines around expanded carrier screening. So any changes in the future should all be upside as coverage broadens.

Unidentified Analyst

Got it.

Operator

Next question today is coming from Andrew Cooper from Raymond James.

Unidentified Analyst

This is Liam [ph] on for Andrew. I guess just to start out on capital allocation priorities. Now what we saw in the quarter, you acquired - you repurchased a number of shares. And obviously, we had the recent Fulgent Pharma acquisition. Going forward, what do you think the balance is between looking for more tuck-in acquisitions or more focused on share repurchases? I appreciate some color there.

Ming Hsieh

Yes, I will take the answer from the CEO position and definitely Paul will add his color from the CF precision. I do see the forging still have a lot of capabilities in terms of addressing this growing space in terms of NGL and the diagnostics. We see a lot of opportunities arising during the last year. So all our options are open. We continue to evaluate the companies, which is adding to our capabilities in terms of technology or broaden our offerings. But in addition, we're also looking for the -- in this space, we see the consolidation. But meanwhile, we also continue using our funds or capabilities to internally develop the technology, which fuel our long-term growth. The test we announced today, which is the largest of the gene panels for the carrier screen space. from previous questions answered certain companies, of course, not feel capable to exist in this space. But we feel that even with this largest gene panel, we can offer the efficiency, and we can offer the more quality tests and to address the market demand. So our fund will be allocated to continue in terms of the R&D to boost our capabilities. We're looking for the space and looking for the consolidation, but engaging address some of the share repurchase program.

Paul Kim

I think your question is excellent because at the end of the day, our unallocated cash position on a relative basis is as strong as ever. We've been very aggressive doing stock buyback. We've acquired a number of businesses. We feel so comfortable with our business capability and the prospects for the future, we still have a sizable cash balance. I think that you've seen that even with the losses for the quarter, excluding investing and financing activities, we still generated cash during the quarter. The other thing, as we talked about revenues and the color around revenues. And yes, we're guiding towards losses for the entire year. And part of that is because of the reduced growth in the operating margin. But underneath that, if you take a look at the dynamics for the fourth quarter, which included a number of charges that were core related -- and then -- which also included right, anatomic pathology, which typically has a lower margin profile. But when we take a look at the macro dynamics of what we believe will happen in 2023, aside from the confidence that we have with the core revenues, so we do anticipate an uptick in growth as well as operating margins.

In other words, you saw the low gross margin in the fourth quarter of 2022. In the first quarter of 2023, the gross margins can be as high as 7, 8 or 9 points of what you've seen in the fourth quarter. And that kind of increase in the gross margins. We anticipate it to increase throughout the course of the year. And then a similar thing for the operating expenses, you saw a number of charges and things that were coded related to the fourth quarter. On an absolute dollar basis, you should see lower operating expenses in each of the quarters and what you saw in the fourth quarter. Aside from onetime and other kind of like anomaly charges, we do see containment, right, within our cost structure. And if you combine that with our capabilities and what we laid out in the core, yes, we're not projecting profits for 2023, but the cash burn, right, should be significantly reduced, which kind of gets us back to what are we going to be doing about cash? I think all of those options are still very much open for the company.

Unidentified Analyst

Appreciate the significant color there. The one thing I have a question on there, talking about OpEx moving lower. I believe Brandon mentioned we might see some S&M adds to the commercial team over the summer. Could you maybe discuss some of the dynamics there and what we can expect in terms of dollar impact?

Paul Kim

Yes, yes. So I’ll kind of like frame it, and I’ll turn it over to Brandon. The thing that you saw in the fourth quarter, which we kind of began prior to that, was the wind down of covet. So there were a number of alignments that we made, reductions, right, that was related to COVID. And then that pivot has started, right, over a quarter ago as to how we look at 2023. So aggressive hiring and what we can do to further bolster our entire commercial organization has been built into the 2023 plan. So now I’ll turn it over to Brandon, who can talk about where he sees his focus in expanding the team and spending for us to achieve these targets.

Brandon Perthuis

Yes, certainly, a what Paul said, I mentioned in my section that we may expand this summer, that's purely driven by the opportunities we're seeing. Pulse was presented a fantastic opportunity to grow our reproductive health space by one of the larger competitors exiting the marketplace. We scaled up our operations incredibly fast as we did with COVID-19 to take on this new volume, and we're hitting our turnaround time, getting our quality metrics, clients are happy. We started this late last year. So we're a couple of months into it so far. The reimbursement and the ASPs we're seeing, we're very happy with, and there's still a lot of opportunity out there. So we think we're very well positioned to win in this space, thus hiring the right salespeople to help us capitalize that is a good investment for the company.

Unidentified Analyst

Perfect. Really appreciate that. And then just last one for me would be so far, how have you seen Fulgent Pharma come into the fold? Just curious on the integration status there. It sounds like there's a lot of exciting pieces working in that business. And I would appreciate more color.

Ming Hsieh

Yes. Thank you for the question. The integration is in process. We converted the employees to the forging and we are still build up a more robust GMP manufacturing capabilities. So literally, we're making all the polymer, the GMP in-house. So that's the one with a very important component for the pharma manufactured process. We also started to line up another contract manufacturer to provide the polymer and the drug mixing filtering and labelization. So that process is also in place, which will make another few thousand of the drug for a clinical trial. So in general, the integration is pretty successful. In addition, we are getting additional cudatas from the Phase Ib trial. The data has been subdative to the ASCO for presentation in June -- in June and later this year. Due to the ASCO requirement, we could not release data before they release the data. So that's why the data will be presented at ASCO. This is a continuation effort and we provide the acodata in 2021. Now 2 days later, we provided an additional update. So then by then, you will see the additional data, which we feel very good about.

Unidentified Analyst

Great. Thanks, again. I’ll in the queue.

Operator

Next question is coming from Tyler Anderson from Piper Sandler.

Tyler Anderson

Sorry about that. This is Tyler Anderson from David. I mean I'm representing David Westenberg at Piper Sandler. I was wondering what are the expected margin outlook for the new business segments that you're breaking out? And what levers are you going to be pulling to improve them? And then specifically, how is the farm spending looking throughout the rest of the year? And do you see any opportunities to further expand your menu? And if so, do you think you're going to be taking an inorganic or an organic approach to that?

Paul Kim

Okay. So I'll kind of tee it up. There are a lot of different questions that were built on there, but we'll take several follow-up questions from you because I want to make sure that we hit all those points. First and foremost -- on our guidance for the overall business, when I was talking about operating margins, that actually includes the $15 million to $17 million of funding for pharma. So even if that is not commercialized, that's fully built into the mall. And then we'll kind of like lead into the 3 areas of our business, the anatomical pathology, the precision as well as the pharma services. And I'll kind of tee it up and share the answers with Brandon from a margin perspective. I think it goes without saying that the margin profile for precision as well as the pharma services that remain highly attractive for the company.

I think for the anatomical pathology, that market traditionally has a lower margin profile. And although we’re doing everything possible to gain efficiency for that marketplace, utilizing right, the systems that we have, it is going to take time. It’s not something that is going to happen overnight. That was not our expectation. And we - our anticipation is that the margin profile for that business, although it’s low, we’ll slowly, right, begin to look more favorable, right, throughout the course of time. But come the precision as well as the pharma services, both the margin profile for those businesses are attractive to begin with. But I’ll turn it over to Brandon, who can talk about, right, the margin profile in those markets.

Brandon Perthuis

No, I don't have a lot to add there. Maybe I'll just move on to your second question, which was menu expansion. I'm unaware of any company that launched as many tests as Fulgent has in the last several years. I mean, we clearly have an ability to rapidly launch test and commercialize them at scale. We're continuing to do so. We talked about a few on the phone call today. We launched our largest ever carrier screening panel today. We talked about launching our new team NGS profile, which we actually have multi-approval for with a really attractive reimbursement rate. And we're going to continue to launch new products in essentially all the areas of our business, Precision Medicine as well as pharma services Also, we talked about launching today, new pharma services that we can better serve our clients. So we certainly see as part of our mission to continue to expand our testing portfolio via more of a one-stop shop for all of our clients. And our R&D and our technology really allows us to do this with modest investment in R&D. So I think the answer -- short answer is yes, you can expect continued menu expansion.

And then, the third question you asked is about organic versus inorganic growth. What we're seeing in the back half of last year and early this quarter is fantastic organic growth -- we are capitalizing on market opportunities with product and technology we had available at Fulgent, and we are seeing fantastic organic growth in the company. That said, we continue to look at M&A as an option. And this leadership team consistently evaluate companies and assets. So I think as Paul mentioned on the call, the growth is likely to come from organic -- a mixture of organic and inorganic. But all of the above is certainly in play. And we think we have that optionality for 2023 and beyond.

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