GNRC - Is It Really Different This Time? Stock Market (And Sentiment Results)
2023-09-28 16:47:09 ET
Summary
- Yields breaking above the 4.50% level may not be a true breakout, as history shows many "breakouts" in yields end up being "fake outs".
- Updated outlook on China and its demographics.
- Cooper Standard's debt: will it be affected by elevated rates?
I wouldn't make that bet. Despite 10-year yields breaking above the dreaded 4.50% level, history shows - at least 11x since 1960 that many of the "breakouts" in yields wind up actually being "fake outs" in yields. Don't buy the hype…
For everyone shorting bonds in the hole, keep in mind that buying "breakouts" (in yield) doesn't always end well…
Finviz
Fox Business
Yesterday, I joined Liz Claman on Fox Business - The Claman Countdown - to discuss markets, outlook, and picks. Thanks to Liz, Kathryn Meyers, Brad Hirst, Jake Mack, and Finley Walker for having me on:
Here were my show notes ahead of the segment:
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A friend sent me an article from Barron's and asked me for my thoughts:
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Full Article on Barron's
This was my response -
I agree with her US outlook. I disagree with her China outlook.
The statement "There is nothing the government can do about demographics, which are unfavorable" is correct 5-10 years out. It could not be more incorrect for the next 3-5 years. Her call is akin to calling the Japan "Top" in 1985. The problem is it (the top) happened in 1989 (preceded by a parabolic 4-year move). I have discussed this quite a few times during this normal bottoming process in Alibaba/China.
The "neighborhood" is improving slowly but surely. BABA will NOT breakout without the country and emerging markets, but will outperform when the shift occurs. We are in the final washout stage where the impatient are flushed.
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Source: Bloomberg 9-28-2023
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The bulk of the Japanese population was:
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Someone sent a question for today's AMA section on the Podcast|Videocast Weekly Recap:
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The short answer is it won't matter as the bulk of the maturities were pushed out (fixed rate) to 2027 during the refinancing. Even the $42M left on 2026 notes allows ample time to refinance and for volumes/operating leverage to kick in. Not to mention - even the most recent hawkish dot plot and projections point to a decline in rates starting in 2024 and more declines in 2025:
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In short, the new debt is fixed. If rates go up, there will be no change. If rates go down, they may take the opportunity to refinance and lower their interest cost.
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Key updates from Investor Day 9-27-2023:
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GNRC - Investor Presentation - 9-27-23
History Doesn't Repeat, It Rhymes
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Value multiples haven't been this stretched to the downside since 2001. Much of our framework is setting up similarly to this period when Emerging Markets/China, Small Caps and Value Stocks dramatically outperformed in ensuing years. It's always darkest before dawn:
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Help is on the Way…
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***2018-2019 shutdown: Lasted 35 days, S&P 500 gained 9.4%.
Low Expectations going into Earnings season:
FactSet
With above-trend economic growth? Hmm…
Atlanta Fed
The "Secret to Happiness" is LOW EXPECTATIONS!
Now onto the shorter-term view for the General Market:
In this week's AAII Sentiment Survey result, Bullish Percent dropped to 27.8% from 31.3% the previous week. Bearish Percent jumped up to 40.9% from 34.6%. Retail investors are fearful again.
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The CNN "Fear and Greed" dropped from 47 last week to 25 this week. Investors are fearful.
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And finally, the NAAIM (National Association of Active Investment Managers Index) ticked down to 54.33% this week from 57.98% equity exposure last week. When the tide turns, the "end of year chase" will be on full force.
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Opinion, Not Advice.
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Is It Really Different This Time? Stock Market (And Sentiment Results)