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CHUBB - Laughing Water Capital - APi Group: Not Alone In My Optimism

Summary

  • More recently APi Group became a large position as I added shares following a near 50% decline in price earlier this year.
  • Management has laid out a clear path toward earnings power improvement in the years to come.
  • Recent insider buying suggests that I am not alone in my optimism.

The following segment was excerpted from this fund letter .


APi Group ( APG )

APi Group ( APG ) – APG is the world’s leading provider of Life Safety services, which can be thought of as our fire safety business. APG was first introduced in the Q2 2020 letter, and we have owned it as a small position since that time.

More recently APG became a large position as I added shares following a near 50% decline in price earlier this year. The business has two segments, both of which are recession resistant. Safety Services (70% of revenue) which focuses on fire prevention services, and Specialty Services (30% of revenue) which primarily works with utility and telecom customers. In brief, fire prevention is still mandated by law regardless of the economy, and utilities and telecom continue to operate regardless of the economy.

Management has laid out a clear path toward earnings power improvement in the years to come.

  • First, the industry is fragmented with many mom-and-pop players, and APG has been able to grow organically 6-7% a year for decades through a branch led model focused on providing better service, which in some ways is tied to scale. Management has indicated they are confident they can continue this cadence, which is likely conservative as industry rag Engineering News Record has predicted that fire safety should grow 9%, and recent growth has far exceeded the 6-7% estimate.
  • Second, since the financial crisis the business has been focusing more and more on recurring services and inspection work, which is more predictable, and higher margin. Importantly, incremental margins tied to route density are significantly higher than run rate margins.
  • Lastly, about a year ago APG acquired European fire and security assets ( OTCQB:CHUBB ) from Carrier Group ( CARR ). These businesses were an afterthought for CARR, which is primarily focused on HVAC. At a recent Investor Day, management detailed the opportunity to improve operations at these formerly neglected assets.

Putting it all together, management has outlined a plan that if successful should see normalized EBITDA and FCF grow by ~60% in the not-too-distant future. These estimates however are based solely on organic growth, and give no credit for intelligent capital allocation. This should be conservative as APG has a long and impressive track record of growth through acquisitions, and Co-Chairs Martin Franklin and James Lillie have a long track record of fantastic capital allocation and creative capital structure management.

In addition to a reasonable path toward earnings power improvement, perception is very likely to improve in the years to come.

  • First, the Company flexed their balance sheet to acquire Chubb, but leverage should come down one turn per year as the Company executes. This deleveraging will accrete to the equity.
  • Second, the taint associated with being a post SPAC equity will fade with time.
  • Third, at present the SPAC sponsors have an unusual compensation scheme whereby they are paid on performance of common shares through a preferred equity structure that results in dilution. This arrangement clearly aligns the sponsors with equity holders, but is confusing to some investors and off-putting to others. In either case, it will be eliminated in 2026, making the story cleaner.
  • Fourth, the sell side has been critical of the recent Chubb acquisition, but in my view this criticism is focused on the rearview mirror. The windshield should become more clear with time. As the Company executes, I do not think it is unreasonable to think that APG can trade at 16x EBITDA or 20x FCF, in line with other Engineering & Construction firms that in my view service less desirable end markets.

As revenue grows organically 6-7% a year, and margins widen through increased efficiency and density, I believe EBITDA will grow by ~60% over the next 3-4 years, which suggests APG currently trades at ~6x the FCF the Company will generate, assuming conversion of preferred shares. Additional upside is possible, perhaps even likely, as there is a long track record of successful bolt on M&A, and a very capable sponsor group will seek to maximize upside through creative capital allocation. As perception improves and revenue mix moves increasingly toward statutorily required work, I believe this business could ultimately trade at 20x FCF, which would imply ~200% upside.

Taken together, I believe the combination of reasonable growth, widening margins, and improving perception can lead to a stock in the low $50s in a few years, assuming that management does not do anything smart. However, given the combination of skin in the game and a world-class track record of capital allocation by the Co-chairs, this would be a very poor assumption. I think it is very likely that instead of sitting idly, they will be attempting to realize value in every way possible, with some combination of larger scale M&A, tax-efficiently spinning or selling the Specialty Services business, and returning capital via buybacks all representing reasonable paths forward. If things do not unfold as I hope, I think we will still do well over time. I would note that recent insider buying suggests that I am not alone in my optimism.


Disclaimer: This document, which is being provided on a confidential basis, shall not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of any offer to buy which may only be made at the time a qualified offeree receives a confidential private offering memorandum (“CPOM”) / confidential explanatory memorandum (“CEM”), which contains important information (including investment objective, policies, risk factors, fees, tax implications and relevant qualifications), and only in those jurisdictions where permitted by law. In the case of any inconsistency between the descriptions or terms in this document and the CPOM/CEM, the CPOM/CEM shall control. These securities shall not be offered or sold in any jurisdiction in which such offer, solicitation or sale would be unlawful until the requirements of the laws of such jurisdiction have been satisfied. This document is not intended for public use or distribution. While all the information prepared in this document is believed to be accurate, Laughing Water Capital, LP and LW Capital Management, LLC make no express warranty as to the completeness or accuracy, nor can they accept responsibility for errors appearing in the document. An investment in the fund/partnership is speculative and involves a high degree of risk. Opportunities for withdrawal/redemption and transferability of interests are restricted, so investors may not have access to capital when it is needed. There is no secondary market for the interests and none is expected to develop. The portfolio is under the sole trading authority of the general partner/investment manager. A portion of the trades executed may take place on non-U.S. exchanges. Leverage may be employed in the portfolio, which can make investment performance volatile. The portfolio is concentrated, which leads to increased volatility. An investor should not make an investment, unless it is prepared to lose all or a substantial portion of its investment. The fees and expenses charged in connection with this investment may be higher than the fees and expenses of other investment alternatives and may offset profits. There is no guarantee that the investment objective will be achieved. Moreover, the past performance of the investment team should not be construed as an indicator of future performance. Any projections, market outlooks or estimates in this document are forward-looking statements and are based upon certain assumptions. Other events which were not taken into account may occur and may significantly affect the returns or performance of the fund/partnership. Any projections, outlooks or assumptions should not be construed to be indicative of the actual events which will occur. The enclosed material is confidential and not to be reproduced or redistributed in whole or in part without the prior written consent of LW Capital Management, LLC. The information in this material is only current as of the date indicated, and may be superseded by subsequent market events or for other reasons. Statements concerning financial market trends are based on current market conditions, which will fluctuate. Any statements of opinion constitute only current opinions of Laughing Water Capital LP, which are subject to change and which Laughing Water Capital LP does not undertake to update. Due to, among other things, the volatile nature of the markets, an investment in the fund/partnership may only be suitable for certain investors. Parties should independently investigate any investment strategy or manager, and should consult with qualified investment, legal and tax professionals before making any investment. The fund/partnership is not registered under the investment company act of 1940, as amended, in reliance on an exemption there under. Interests in the fund/partnership have not been registered under the securities act of 1933, as amended, or the securities laws of any state and are being offered and sold in reliance on exemptions from the registration requirements of said act and laws. The S&P 500 and Russell 2000 are indices of US equities. They are included for informational purposes only and may not be representative of the type of investments made by the fund.


Editor's Note: The summary bullets for this article were chosen by Seeking Alpha editors.

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Stock Information

Company Name: CommerceHub Inc
Stock Symbol: CHUBB
Market: OTC

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