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MDB - MongoDB Inc. (MDB) Citi 2023 Global Technology Conference (Transcript)

2023-09-07 20:53:10 ET

MongoDB, Inc. (MDB)

Citi 2023 Global Technology Conference

Sept 07, 2023, 03:15 PM ET

Company Participants

Michael Gordon - Chief Operating Officer and Chief Financial Officer

Serge Tanjga - Senior Vice President of Finance

Conference Call Participants

Tyler Radke - Co-head, U.S. Software Sector, Citi

Presentation

Tyler Radke

Good afternoon, everybody. Thanks for joining day two of Citi's Tech Conference. My name is Tyler Radke. I co-head the U.S. Software Sector here at Citi. This afternoon, we're happy to have MongoDB. We have Michael Gordon, the COO and CFO of MongoDB as well as Serge Tanjga, who is the Senior Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. I think I got that title alright but.

Serge Tanjga

Thanks for having us.

Tyler Radke

Yes. Appreciate you coming. You probably have the shortest commute to the conference out of anybody.

Serge Tanjga

Love a good home game.

Question-and-Answer Session

Q - Tyler Radke

It'd be great to just give a brief overview of MongoDB, certainly in the database landscape. Where exactly do you -- where do you fit in this big market?

Michael Gordon

Sure. Yes. Again, thanks for having us. Great to see everyone. Just to take a step back. So the database market is one of the largest in all of software. A little over $80 billion spent per IDC in 2023, with that growing to around $136 billion in 2027. So really a quite large market and growing at a fairly healthy clip.

One of the ways I try to think about this is typically, I would think of the market as sort of a more mature market, and I would expect a market like that to grow maybe more in line with global GDP or something like that. And the reason why the market is forecast to grow $10 billion, $12 billion a year right, sort of roughly 13% for the IDC numbers is because databases are central to Company's ability to compete and innovate.

You hear these phrases like software is eating the world or every Company becoming a technology Company or maybe even Citibank talking about having more developers than some big large tech Company. And the reason for that is because Companies are trying to drive competitive advantage through their internally built software.

Package software is great but if it's off-the-shelf package software anyone can anyone can buy it that doesn't really convey any competitive advantage. And so I drive my competitive advantage from actually building software. And every application that I build has a database at its center and the agility, scalability, nimbleness of that database will determine ultimately your competitiveness.

And so that's why it's such not only a large market, but such a strategic market. And we're going after all the markets. So MongoDB is the most popular and the leading other general purpose database. So we can talk and get into as much of the technology as we want to, but databases have been around for a long time.

The sort of historic legacy technology is relational technology with companies like Oracle, being great examples of people who've really successfully captured the market. There are a lot of challenges with relational technology. It was built for a different era, kind of pioneered in the 1970s.

Obviously, things have changed, data volumes, data scales, data types have change people's need to innovate more quickly has happened. And that's really where our Company and our product has come through as sort of a better mousetrap. And so the reason that we've been successful at gaining share is not just because of the better product, but that product resonates with developers.

Developers, the ones who are building the applications. And so MongoDB has kind of the hearts and minds of developers, and that's really enabled our success. All that combined with good execution has us now. The Company has founded in 2007. So, 16 years after founding at around $1.5 billion revenue kind of closing in on 2% market share, but with big ambitions.

So I'll stop. There we go. Lots of different ways.

Tyler Radke

Yes. No. Great overview. So I think one of the numbers that stood out certainly from your Analyst Day is the $100 billion TAM. I think, by IDC's definition, not necessarily your definition. But the question I often get from investors is how addressable -- how much of that market can you actually address?

I mean, number one, some might argue the non-relational or NoSQL part of the market is a lot smaller. And then secondly, a lot of that market is almost like locked up in existing applications, obviously, Oracle, IBM, Microsoft, et cetera, have a large business. So how do you kind of think about your ability to address that market today? And also in the context of some of the products that you have in the pipeline?

Michael Gordon

Yes. So, there a couple of different ways to go ahead; so I think first, what I do is I would start off technologically, we've made significant investments in the product over the last several years, such that from a technological standpoint, there isn't actually a reason why technically you couldn't serve a specific use case.

That doesn't mean it's the right thing though, right. And so if I just go back to those IDC numbers, there's anywhere -- obviously varies a little bit year-to-year, but there's anywhere between kind of $10 billion to $12 billion of new created every year new spend.

Most of those are new applications. We're obviously particularly well positioned for new applications as the modern leader. And if we think about that $80 billion today, to your point, not every dollar of that $80 billion is doing an RFP every year, right; like if you have applications that are working perfectly well, like you're not going to bother to go re-platform them.

So if we just use a somewhat simplistic assumption of saying a 10-year average application life, that would mean that $8 billion of the $80 million is kind of up for grabs in any given year and so if you add that to the $10 billion to $12 billion of growth, you've got anywhere between kind of 18% or 20%, transactable in a given year. And so that's kind of how I'd frame it up.

I think the other thing that I would call out is while sometimes analysts will think about -- not necessarily research s, but industry s, will sometimes think about the relational market as separate from the non-relational market or sometimes called the NoSQL market. I don't think that accurately captures the landscape today. I think that was helpful at a point in time when you had some insurgent technologies, including MongoDB that we're sort of trying for that, but serve different use cases.

But our general purpose nature allows us to compete directly. So we have plenty of Oracle displacements of relational displacements. And so that construct while maybe providing a helpful organizing framework doesn't quite match the market realities or the technical capability.

So from sort of a TAM and a market and a use case standpoint, we see the whole thing in play. We see use cases across industries, across geographies, across Company sizes, customer-facing, systems of record, Wall Street trading applications, utility building applications, kind of hard core mission-critical stuff, which wasn't true 10 years ago, right. So we've evolved and we've invested a lot in the product, but that's kind of higher frame.

Tyler Radke

Awesome. So in terms of that incumbent spend in a lot of these legacy applications, I think historically, Mongo has talked about one fourth of your business coming from re-writing or re-platforming these legacy applications. As you think about generative AI and some of the code completion, code assistant technologies, especially combined with some of your own tools like Relational Migrator, how do you think about the ability for legacy applications to kind of get re-modernized more quickly, especially as the tools become easier?

Michael Gordon

So I think it's helpful to take a step back and just sort of think through these things. So first of all, if you have an application that is working just fine, no one -- no CTO of Citi or anywhere else wakes up and says like, "I want to go re-platform an application." Right, you always rather build new functionality, improve user experience. And so it usually tends to trigger the need or desire to rewrite an application is you're seeing a lack of performance, right.

You're seeing a slowdown you're seeing a lack of agility, slowness in your ability to innovate.And the application just isn't performing, right. And so then you say, "Okay, I have to go bite the bullet to go do these things." So one of the key phases, I think, of migrating, particularly from relational -- was probably helpful to think through then we can talk about where is generative AI help in that.

So the first phase is a schema modeling and mapping your relational schema to the document model. Without getting deeply technical, the document model is much simpler, but because relational has been the standard, it is typical for people to think in these very complicated tables of rows and columns, and I think and I tend to orient my data that way and it helps demystify and familiarize someone with the document model to be able to visualize what the schemas look like. And to your point, we have a tool that we just released, GA called Relational Migrator that helps with that.

The second phase can really be in the data migration, and we also have tooling that helps with that. Often, you'll run them in parallel to make sure the systems are correct. And then the third piece is the actual writing of the code. Right. And that's where I think generative AI can help. That's a little bit more sort of on the horizon.

We haven't cracked the code there yet, but we're working on tooling and working with partners around that. But I think that could be a real facilitator for some of these. Because if you think about sort of the economic equation from a business owner standpoint, I have pain, I need to go fix that right. Re-platforming to MongoDB takes work, right.

That's real effort. And so anything that we can do to shrink down that cost will effectively improve the ROI equation or make it sensible for a higher percentage of those to actually be rewritten on MongoDB. If you're simply just looking for cost savings and your application is performing just fine, it will be faster to move to another relational technology. Right. Because that's more kind of like, kind of like kind. But as we can bring down sort of the cost, people will also get the application benefits of moving to our platform.

Tyler Radke

Sticking on the generative AI side just for a couple of more questions. As I think about the other side, which is the new business side, your new customer additions have been hovering around record high levels for a number of quarters despite the challenging macro. And I think you've talked about a number of generative AI customers, who are using MongoDB, I think, hugging face and some of these other well-funded AI start-ups are using MongoDB in some form.

I guess two questions. Can you talk about the use cases what type of workloads those Gen AI companies are using MongoDB? And how do you just think about the significance of that growth opportunity over time?

Michael Gordon

Yes. So why don't we tackle this a couple of different ways. So I think one thing that will happen especially with these code assist tools is, I think it is safe to assume that we will see increases in developer productivity. People couldn't debate today and it's hard to construct a perfect A/B test to figure out what is the percentage. We certainly heard estimates of 20%, 30%, 40%.

But one way or another, I think we can comfortably assume that over time, and once you work out the hallucinations and everything else, we will see improvements in development productivity. What that will mean is that developers will create more applications.

We, from what we've seen and all the customers we talk to, there isn't anyone who's sitting here saying, "Oh, great, I mean, they get this improvement there I'm going to cut my engineers." productivity, they'll be able to crank out more applications. So first of all, we'll just benefit from that, right, by having more Most people have a robust and healthy and high ROI backlog of things that they can't get to. And so with greater developer applications.

Secondly, to the extent that they're sort of AI or AI powered or have more AI capabilities, they will want and need the benefits of a modern general-purpose database like what we have. And so I think that positions us as well there.

Tyler Radke

Okay. And I guess the generative AI companies themselves, what type of use cases are you seeing?

Michael Gordon

So you'll see it in a couple of different ways. I think we're relatively early on, and we've certainly talked about a couple of specific ones, but I'll try and sort of generalize. There are plenty of companies, we call that hugging phase, I think well before ChatGPT was launched as a customer, right.

And so it's not just all generative AI, right, but there's a broader field of AI. And these are companies that are sort of building the core of their business on MongoDB. Vector search is a popular topic, and maybe we want to get more to it in detail, but just conceptually, that's a newer area.

We've recently introduced a product that's in preview mode where people are incrementally building on top of that and sort of adding basically incorporating the vector capabilities that help with some of the semantic search into the database platform where we think that it will eventually evolve over time, but we can talk about that as well.

Tyler Radke

Yes. Yes. Well, yes, it's a great segue. I did want to touch on some of the new products you announced. You hosted a number of these events around the U.S., including one here in New York, MongoDB local.

You announced a vector search offering. You also announced a stream processing offering, which I think that one particularly caused was a bit of a surprise. But could you just walk through kind of your vision around those new products? What are the types of use cases or workloads that you saw a need for that in the market?

Michael Gordon

Yes. So I'll trend run a few different things that, again, we can go into as much detail as you want to or is interesting to the crowd. But why don't I take a step back and kind of paint the picture, right. So first and foremost, what we're trying to do is respond to our customers and what developers want.

And at the core, what we're solving for are developers problems and developers have a lot of different challenges, including -- especially when you get to managing multiple or disparate systems or point solutions. And just simplistically, MongoDB offers that core operational transactional kind of OLTP database which is at the heart of the application, the powers the transactions and everything else.

And any other point solutions that I add around it, not only do I have to manage the point solution, but I also have to manage some kind of sinking or communication infrastructure between the two. And so the more things that can be brought into the platform, the easier the developer's life is, the greater the productivity will be and the more value that they can create, the more they can focus on functionality and user experience.

So that's kind of like the macro backdrop from a developer and a customer standpoint. From a business standpoint, it's less about, "Oh, we can introduce this functionality. Therefore, we can go address this adjacent TAM." Right. We're blessed with an enormous TAM. As I mentioned, we're closing in on 2% market share.

So we are not in search of additional TAMs. But really what a platform story allows for is for us to win more workloads and to accelerate the winning of more workloads within customers and to penetrate an account like Citi more completely, right, more effectively, more efficiently and faster by being able to offer a platform story that resonates.

And so we can talk about tech search, which has been out for a while. We just introduced Vector search. We just announced a private preview stream processing, all different pieces that are around in addition to time series and other capabilities that we have. So why don't I stop there, but happy to go in any of the direction something and I'll cut you.

Tyler Radke

And I know that we don't have time to do a technical deep dive into all those product areas. But I guess, keeping it kind of high level, should investors think about those new products as incremental to the TAM members that you've already articulated? Or how do you kind of see that?

Michael Gordon

Theoretically, yes, they're incremental to the TAM numbers. That's not the primary driver from our standpoint. For us, it's more about winning new workloads. I think that it will be more effective from an economic standpoint in terms of driving more new workloads? Like, yes, you could take an existing set of applications and say, okay, let's go attach some of these capabilities to that?

And yes, theoretically, the spend per revenue per workload would go up as you had that kind of attach rate. But I would caution people and help people understand that this is a little bit different than sort of classic feature enablement. Right. These are -- there are often other technological solutions, these point solutions that people are managing and therefore, it requires real sales effort if you're going to say, okay, you used to be -- you had an application, your application had tech search, right.

You think about a website, you go to where there's sort of filtering, you want to filter by size or geography or whatever brand, whatever it is that you're filtering that search in action in an application. And you're doing that today. You have some product there, you have solar, you have elastic, you have something you're doing. And so it's not as simple as having some customer success managers say, "Hey, would you like to enable search?".

Great, that's now enabled and all of a sudden, revenue is up x percent on that application. You've actually got to go to displace technology. There's a clear value proposition and having that integrated into the platform but it does take real work. And so while I think there's uplift there. I think the big focus is on helping -- having the platform story allow us to win more workloads more quickly and therefore, kind of capitalize on a market opportunity faster.

Tyler Radke

Okay. That makes sense. So, maybe pivoting to the recent trends in the business, you recently reported last week, I guess it as only a week ago, feels like a long way, but certainly, really, really strong results across the board, whether you look at Atlas or the non-Atlas business.

But I guess sticking on just the momentum that you're seeing, how do you feel like the macro environment has kind of evolved over the last few quarters? Do you feel like we're starting to -- or we're through the worst of kind of these macro headwinds? Or how would you just kind of characterize both the demand and consumption trends that you're seeing from customers?

Serge Tanjga

Yes. Why don't I take a crack. So I think it's a good way to phrase the question because we tend to think of demand and consumption is sort of two separate drivers. So you've heard us talk about the new business environment and that is basically ability to win new workloads, whether it is the first workload in the customer, i.e. a new logo or just subsequent workloads whether it is EA or Atlas, where we're indifferent.

And really, throughout this macro slowdown that began over a year ago, we've been very happy with our ability to acquire new business. I think that ultimately speaks to a few things. It speaks to the size of the market, as Michael mentioned, it speaks to the quality of the product and it speaks to our ability to execute and sort of keep laser-focused on acquiring new workloads as kind of the currency that matters internally, right.

So -- and we haven't seen a change in that, right. Like, we've been able to execute through this macro slowdown. And obviously, we listen to what other software companies are saying, and I know that there hasn't been a universal experience for everybody.

But whether it's the mission criticality of our product, the quality -- sorry, the mission criticality, the market, the quality of the product or the execution, but the new business environment has remained robust for us, and that's been sort of steady as she goes. Don't take it for granted, but have been generally pleased with how that's been going.

Now let's switch to consumption. So this is obviously an Atlas phenomenon. What we've seen very clearly and were among the first ones to call out was at the beginning of our second quarter last year, we started seeing underlying usage of the apps on our platform slowdown. And let me just pause and double-click on that because that's very important.

So on Atlas, we see in real time what our customers are doing and not just what they're spending with us, but also how they're interacting with their databases, and that's what we mean by usage. And what we saw was the underlying apps grow at a slower pace, and that's very highly correlated with our growth and how much money they spend with us and so we called that out when we saw it at the beginning of the second quarter.

We sort of adjusted our guide accordingly. And if you fast forward five quarters later and where we are today, generally speaking, we've been living in the slower consumption growth world. And it's been -- there's been some seasonal puts and takes, which we're happy to go through as needed.

But generally speaking, it's been stable and slower compared to the period prior to the slowdown. And the only other thing I would say on that front is that as we observe our own business and as we plan and execute in our business but also listen to what other people in the industry are saying, our dynamics seem to be different than other people.

Other people, whether they're cloud providers or other "consumption names" have been talking about optimizations. Have been talking about customers proactively reducing their spend with various vendors. And that really isn't a dynamic that we see. What we see is underlying application growth slowing down and our usage growth -- sorry, in our revenue growth as a result in Atlas slowing down.

But we don't see customers proactively getting involved to change the way that they deploy Atlas in order to save money in part because we're so tightly aligned between usage and the revenue that we derive. And that, we think, is a fundamental strength of our model. Customers build applications, spend precious developer resources in order for those applications to get used.

And if they get used, they spend more time with us and everybody wins effectively. And so we don't see a change in the macro environment. We've seen it stable for a while now at this lower growth base. That's what's implied in our guide for the rest of the year. And obviously, we'll update you as we see any change.

Tyler Radke

Yes. Yes, that's a great way of framing both the new workload and kind of existing consumption side. I guess to double-click on the consumption side, certainly, it was more dour mood here a year ago when we were up here post second quarter. But Q1, you talked about a pretty decent recovery in consumption trends. We certainly saw that at your Analyst Day and some of the slides you showed.

And it seemed like it's sort of continued in Q2, like slightly ahead of your expectations. So now that you've seen a couple of quarters of things not getting worse, I guess, what do you kind of need to see before you have the confidence to say that we're through the worst?

Michael Gordon

Let me take a first step. So we look at the consumption and you're referencing one of the slides that we shared at our Investor Day, which tries to demonstrate visually how do we look at consumption. When we talk about consumption, we're talking about Atlas growth run rate week-over-week on a relatively short time horizon.

So, looking at a several day run rate week over week, if you look at a business in a daily basis, you'll drive yourself crazy, but we think that there's actual value looking at our weekly. And what we've seen is it slowed down in really sort of a very clear break in pattern starting in Q2 of last year. And then we've seen a kind of variation around that new mean and the other thing that's happening in the business and the other thing that we're learning about as we go along is seasonality.

So the seasonality in our growth is driven by the underlying seasonality in our usage. And what we've seen -- and what you can see in that chart is that Q1 and Q2 tend to be seasonally stronger than -- sorry, Q1 and Q3 tend to be seasonally stronger than Q2 and Q4. And as we thought about forecasting the business going into this year.

And as we sort of give you puts and takes and updates, that was taking seasonality into account. So in Q1, consumption surprised the upside. In Q2, we had expected it to be seasonally slower than in Q1, and it was slightly better than that, but only slightly so. And as we sort of think about for the rest of the year, we expect Q3 to be seasonally stronger. In Q4 to again be slightly seasonally slower than Q3.

But the underlying trend feels stable and has felt stable for a while now. And frankly, the way that we will know that we're out of that and they were in some sort of faster growth environment will only be after we accumulate enough data points on a monthly or weekly basis, that we said that this no longer feels like seasonality things are -- the underlying has changed and feel stronger.

Serge Tanjga

Yes. I would just add just because I think there's at least risk of confusion here, we talked about the Q2 results. They were down relative to the Q1 results but that's what you would expect based on the seasonality, and they were slightly ahead of our expectations. So people can kind of connect all the dots and all the frames of reference.

Tyler Radke

Are you regarding putting that chart up there?

Michael Gordon

That -- it's actually great. It's come up a bunch of times, including -- since reporting again. So that was helpful.

Tyler Radke

No, that's great. So let's talk a little bit about go-to-market. I think earlier this year, you talked about -- and you alluded to this earlier, but really focusing your reps, particularly at the enterprise, on getting workload by workload moving away from pre-committed deals, pre-committed credits, right. Can you talk about -- was there any disruption from that? Sometimes sales changes are difficult to go. But just update us on the progress and what the benefits you've seen so far from that shift?

Michael Gordon

Sure. Yes. It's -- first of all, it's been part of a multiyear effort to reduce friction in the process, which includes reducing the emphasis or the importance of commitments. And part of the reason for that is if you take a new application that someone is going to launch on Atlas, if the rep is -- has an incentive or is paid primarily off the basis of the commitment, I am going to hold out for the biggest commitment possible, right, because that's what I'm getting paid on. Amazingly, incentives drive behavior.

The customer who hasn't launched the application has no idea what that app is going to consume. And so let's just say, we think it's going to be $100,000. Right. And even if the customer thought it was $100,000, they're probably not going to commit to it. They might commit to 90,000 or 95,000 or like something lower than that.

But they don't really know there's going to be this negotiation back and forth, the protracted conversation. And ultimately, they end at 70,000 or whatever they end that. And the reality is none of that affected what the application actually is going to consume. The consumption is going to be whatever the consumption was going to be. And effectively, that rep has wasted a whole bunch of time and effort that they could be going and selling new additional workloads.

And so to me, that's the key point is when you think about this large market opportunity that we have and the fact that our quota-carrying head count is measured in the hundreds as opposed to the thousands or tens of thousands that our competitors have, anything we can do to effectively and synthetically expand the impact of that sales force by freeing up time and giving them time is valuable.

And so that's where this focus on creating -- we're creating this focus on winning new workloads as the key thing has really been sort of a long-term trend. And as you know, Tyler, comp plans are complicated, reps are sensitive to them. You typically only change them once a year. You're not usually changing comp plans midyear.

And so like I said, this has been part of sort of a multiyear phased journey where we said, okay, we want to -- and you can't like radically change the plan in 180 in a year, otherwise, there's too much change management. It's been sort of a multiyear process to get to this point and feel pleased about it. And it's having the desired effects.

Certainly, from a change management standpoint, there has not been significant disruption. There's always changes and there are always some people who are trying to find their way with a new comp plan, and we don't have any more of that than usual this year. But so far so good.

Tyler Radke

Yes. One of the other pieces on the go-to-market that stood out to me. And I think you sort of actually might have reclassified some customers from direct to self-serve? And it kind of sounded like you found some new efficiencies in the business and like, hey, why do we have a sales rep here if they're just going to transact through a marketplace or earn a self-serve motion. Can you talk about that, what you saw in the quarter and the role that marketplace and self-service can play going forward?

Serge Tanjga

The beauty of Atlas is that we have access to a tremendous amount of data, and we try to become more intelligent over time is use that data and usage patterns to judge our customers' potential. And so -- and it's an ongoing process, but what we've particularly become more comfortable over time is our ability to call when we see that there's incremental workload potential in the account.

So if you think about our sales resources and just how scarce and expensive they are, we only want to deploy them against the greatest sort of target-rich environment in terms of acquisition of new workloads because otherwise, we are not maximizing the return on our investment. So, if you have an account that has a certain number of workloads and those workloads are growing at a reasonable pace but we see a relatively small potential for incremental workload acquisition in the near to medium term.

We are better off putting it in self-serve where the cost to serve them is dramatically lower. And more importantly, honestly, take them out of the reps book, so they don't have to spend time renewing the customer or servicing the customer and instead focusing them on higher potential accounts where they can acquire incremental workloads.

It's not purely a cost play. It's really an efficiency play. And so we've noted on the last call that we moved about 300 accounts from direct to self-serve because we think that at least in the near to medium term, we can focus our reps attention elsewhere to greater effect. I would say a couple of things, though. Number one is, it's not like a permanent state. Customers change, their opportunities change. That's why real-time data is helpful because we can revisit these decisions as we go along.

And then secondly, they tend to be the low end of our mid-market channel. Therefore, they are not that dissimilar for the average self-serve customer to begin with. And it's incrementally helpful. It's all in the process of sort of continuously looking for efficiencies and acquiring new workloads as quickly as possible.

Frankly, we mostly called it out so that you can understand the direct customer net adds, which looked lower relative to prior quarters, but it was a proactive decision in terms of managing between the channels as opposed to any change in the underlying environment and ability to acquire workloads.

Michael Gordon

And frankly, it mirrors what the best reps do anyway, right. Like if you're a good rep, you're efficient about your time and you know where you can drive incremental outcomes because that's how you're going to max out in our comp plan. Right. And so this is just sort of the natural consequence of that. Did you want to touch on marketplaces, too?

Tyler Radke

Yes, I think that would be great. Just maybe I can phrase the question a little differently. But as you -- so I think this year, there was a pretty big announcement or maybe two big announcements with Microsoft but just talk about the evolution of the marketplace. And I guess do you have views on how much of the revenue or business comes through the marketplace over time?

Serge Tanjga

Yes. So we -- the evolution has been varied in terms of which, if you go cloud player by cloud player, but I think all three at this point are in very healthy and good spots along the corporation competition continuum. Certainly, they are competitors, but I would say that dynamic for the most part, much more mirrors that of partners, and that's been great to see the evolution.

Specifically on marketplaces, I think we're the only ISV who's on all three marketplaces in the console. And so I think that speaks to the popularity of MongoDB, the strength of those partnerships. We have go-to-market arrangements with all three. It varies and changes year-to-year, but I think all three have their reps getting paid. All three, if you're a customer and you've got a big commit with them, your MongoDB, Atlas consumption counts towards those commits.

And so these are pretty good and close partnerships. I think the dynamic varies customer by customer in terms of how much is cloud providers doing fulfilment versus jointly selling in the marketplace where we've seen the most success in the field and joint collaboration is when there's an incumbent cloud provider and one of the other two is trying to break into the account and lock arms with us to go successfully leverage the benefits of us working together.

And I think that's times when we've seen that sort of most successful on a sourcing or kind of more than fulfilment basis. And we've seen that grow over time. Still plenty more room to run and a lot more opportunity to coordinate and collaborate in the field. But in general, those partnerships have been very strong.

Tyler Radke

Okay. And then -- moving to margins for a moment. I think it's -- Mongo is probably one of the few companies in my space that did not have to do layoffs, which is, I think it shows how responsible and diligent you have been in the hiring. But yet you've still seen pretty significant margin expansion year-over-year. And certainly, this most recent quarter, you've been able to couple that with a nice reacceleration in growth. So I guess my question is, have you learned anything over the last year that you think maybe could drive even more upside to your long-term targets in terms of incremental efficiencies?

Serge Tanjga

So maybe start with year-to-date, talk a little bit about the rest of the year, and then we can think about sort of the learnings in the going forward. So happy with the margin performance so far this year. In particular, Q2 was a standout quarter. We had a 19% non-GAAP operating margin. Two things to keep in mind, why it came significantly better than we expected.

The first one is revenue performance. We've done meaningfully better on revenue than expected. And on top of that, in Q2, in particular, we've done better on Enterprise Advanced and some of these large licensing deals out of Alibaba, which comes with an upfront license components currency of ASC 606, and that comes with very high margins. So that's the first reason for the operating margin outperformance.

The second is our hiring plan for the year has been back-end loaded by design. And over time, we made it slightly more back-end loaded tactically as we sort of see availability of talent becoming better in the back half of the year. And so those two things combined are part of the reason why we've done meaningfully better than expected in terms of performance year-to-date.

If you zoom out and think about the full year, I'm still quite impressed by our own ability to perform and execute. So we're going to expand margins to 12 percentage points at the midpoint of our guide. So that's 700 basis points better than expected. And I think ultimately, what that speaks to is the underlying unit economics, the strength, the tremendous stickiness is sort of built in organic growth that comes from existing workloads.

And those are things that we've known about for a long time, and in fact, it's sort of a continuation of trend since we've been public, we went probably a negative 38% margin. And like I said, we're now going to get to 12% positive. So that's 50 percentage points improvement, a nice round number. As we think about going forward, ultimately, we're trying to balance two things.

One is the continued improvement in profitability, which is important to us, has always been important to us, and we know it's important to you all. But the other one is just the size of the opportunity, right. We are just closing it on a whopping 2% share. We have the best technology in the market.

We believe we're fractionally in terms of penetration of our sales force our rep account is in the hundreds versus the competitors who are in the thousands and the tens of thousands. So there's plenty of opportunity to invest, and we don't want to short-change the long-term potential for the purposes of near-term margin expansion.

Tyler Radke

Right. In the last couple of minutes, could we just hit on your vision and kind of appetite for M&A? Clearly, there's been a lot of organic innovation vector search and the ability to stream processing, for instance. How are you thinking about M&A? What categories make sense? And then secondly, just kind of some closing comments, what are kind of the three biggest things you're focused on just to kind of ensure this durability of growth.

Michael Gordon

Yes. So from an M&A standpoint, we've done some small acquisitions. I think of them all as sort of opportunistic and offensive. That said, we have a big market, we have a large organic opportunity in front of us. And because our model is different in terms of the document model versus the relational model, there are not as many things that sort of make sense from a bolt-on standpoint, right.

So, like you talked about stream processing. We look at stream processing, and we try to consider sort of buy versus build and all of these things. But when we looked at what was available in terms of Apache Flink or Case SQL DB or things like that, they were much more rigid in their structure and didn't think it made sense in the context of the document model and we're trying to deliver a drive for developers. And so that made sense to go build organically. But we'll continue to look broadly.

Certainly, I wouldn't rule out anything, but I think we're mostly focused organically on the growth in front of us. And maybe that's a good segue to the last part of your question, which is we have this very large market opportunity. We have this incredibly strong product market fit. What we really focus on is execution.

I know that sounds boring, and frankly, that's what we've said since the IPO. But that's really where it is. We don't need some big thing to happen to create some unlock. We don't need to wish for some competitor to do something or not to do something. We've withstood obviously many different attacks and approaches there as the hyper-scale is introduced their invitation offerings and other things like that, that we've sort of been able to withstand.

We've raised plenty of capital, so we have the ability to go out and do what we need to do. And so really, look around the exec team table, the key focus is all on execution to make sure that we really generally do capitalize on the opportunity in front of us.

Tyler Radke

Great. Well, that's a perfect place to end. Mike, thanks for joining, Serge. Thank you, and appreciate the big crowd on an afternoon with a bunch of earnings. So thank you very much.

Serge Tanjga

Yes. Thanks for having us.

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MongoDB, Inc. (MDB) Citi 2023 Global Technology Conference (Transcript)
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