OMAB - Grupo Aeroportuario del Centro Norte S.A.B. de C.V. (OMAB) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript
2023-10-30 16:03:10 ET
Grupo Aeroportuario del Centro Norte, S.A.B. de C.V. (OMAB)
Q3 2023 Earnings Conference Call
October 30, 2023, 12:00 PM ET
Company Participants
Emmanuel Camacho - Investor Relations
Ricardo Duenas - Chief Executive Officer
Ruffo Perez Pliego - Chief Financial Officer
Conference Call Participants
Pablo Monsivais - Barclays
Guilherme Mendes - JPMorgan
Rodolfo Ramos - Bradesco BBI
Alberto Valerio - UBS
Bruno Amorim - Goldman Sachs
Juan Macedo - GBM
Jay Singh - Citi
Edson Murguia - SummaCapital
Gabriel Himelfarb - Scotiabank
Fernanda Recchia - BTG Pactual
Alan Macias - Bank of America
Presentation
Operator
Greetings and welcome to the OMA Third Quarter Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.
It is now my pleasure to introduce Emmanuel Camacho, Investor Relations. Thank you. You may begin.
Emmanuel Camacho
Thank you, Doug. Hello, everyone, and welcome to OMA's Third Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Participating today are CEO, Ricardo Duenas, and CFO, Ruffo Perez Pliego.
Please be reminded that certain statements made during the course of our discussion today may constitute forward-looking statements, which are based on current management expectations and beliefs and are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially, including factors that may be beyond our control.
And with that, I'll turn the call over to Ricardo Duenas for his opening remarks.
Ricardo Duenas
Thank you, Emmanuel. Good morning, everyone. We appreciate your presence on this call today. I will begin by discussing the impact that Hurricane Otis had in our Acapulco Airport and then we'll comment on recent developments in the regulatory landscape of our airport concessions.
Afterwards, we will move on to our quarterly results. On the night of October 25, Hurricane Otis struck Acapulco City with Category 5 intensity. The hurricane caused some damage to the terminal building of the Acapulco airport.
However, the airport remains operational and is currently focused on humanitarian operations. We are working closely with local and federal authorities to fully restore the regular operations of the airport, which we expect to be relatively soon.
In 2022, Acapulco contributed with 3.6% of our total passenger traffic and 3.4% of OMA's total aeronautical and non-aeronautical revenues. Regarding recent regulatory changes, on October 4th, 2023, the Civil Aviation Agency, an autonomous body under Ministry of Communication and Transportation notified us about immediate modification established in Annex 7 of the tariff regulation basis of our airport concessions.
Over the two weeks that followed, we conducted a thorough review of this new guidelines and engaged in closed and constructive communication with the Ministry and the AFAC to clarify certain points.
During these interactions, the Mexican government was open to dialogue leading to agreements finally reflected in the modified basis that we received on October 19th and subsequently made public to the market. We don't expect significant impact on this.
Another matter that I would like to mention concerns the concession tax. On October 25, the Senate approved the new 2025 federal duties law. This law includes provisions to increase the concession tax from 5% to 9% based on airport revenues effective January 24.
It is worth mentioning that under new tariff regulation, the increase in the concession tax affecting the '24 and '25 period will be recognized in the next tariff negotiation of '26 to '30 period through the reference value. It is also essential to understand that the concession tax is part of the calculation variables for determining maximum tariff. This new basis did not change this relative to the original basis.
After all these events, we anticipate that OMA will uphold its commitment to adaptability, resilience and the sustained and successful track record of its financial and operational results. Turning to our main third quarter of this year results. OMA continued to deliver solid financial and operating results during the third quarter.
Adjusted EBITDA grew 33% in the quarter to MXN2.5 billion and adjusted EBITDA margin reached 79.4% largely as a result of the increase in both aeronautical and non-aeronautical revenues on our successful cost control strategy.
In the third quarter, OMA's passenger traffic reached a record number of 7.4 million, an increase of 19% versus the third quarter of last year. Outstanding results were guided by the performance in Monterrey, which accounted for 62% of OMA's total passenger growth as compared to the third quarter of last year.
The main destinations at road traffic growth were Toluca, Queretaro, Cancun, Santa Lucia and Mexico City. Most of them consider business routes. On aggregate, these five routes added 255,000 additional passengers in the quarter, an increase of 17% versus the third quarter of last year.
Primarily as a result of the star passenger traffic performance, our aeronautical revenue grew by 31% in the quarter to MXN2.5 billion. On the commercial front, revenues increased 24% compared to third quarter of last year, driven by restaurants, parking, car rentals and VIP lounges.
Occupancy rate for commercial space stood at 94.7% at the end of the quarter. Diversification revenues increased 8%. Our hotel services contributed most to this growth. In the second quarter of this year, occupancy rate of our Terminal 2 NH was 86.3%, while the Hilton Garden Inn Hotel had an occupancy rate of 73.3%.
On the capital expenditure front, total investment in the quarter, including MDP investments, major maintenance and strategic investments were MXN964 million. During the quarter, some of the most relevant projects we are working on are the expansion and remodeling of the Monterrey Airport Terminal, a building as well as Ciudad Juarez, Torreon, Culiacan and Durango terminal buildings.
Reconfiguration of the Mazatlan terminal building. Major rehabilitation and reconfiguration of platforms and taxiways in several airports and construction of four industrial warehouses.
I would now like to turn the call over to Ruffo Perez Pliego, who will discuss our financial highlights of the quarter.
Ruffo Perez Pliego
Thank you, Ricardo. Good morning, everyone. I will briefly review our financial results for the quarter, and then we will open the call for your questions.
Turning to OMA's third quarter financial results. Aeronautical revenues increased 31% relative to the third quarter of '22, driven primarily by the 18.6% increase in passenger traffic and higher revenue per passenger. Non-aero revenues increased 17.6%. Commercial revenues increased 23.6%.
The categories with the largest growth were restaurants, parking, car rentals and VIP lounges. Restaurants and car rentals rose 40% and 28% respectively, mainly due to higher revenue sharing and the impact of the opening of new spaces and improved contractual conditions on renewals.
Parking increased 16.4% as a, result of an increase in passengers and higher penetration rates in Ciudad Juarez, Chihuahua, Culiacan, Monterey and Reynosa Airports. VIP lounges increased 31.5% as a result of an increase in passenger traffic and the opening of the Reynosa lounge in August 2023 as well as the Tampico lounge in May 2023 and Ciudad Juarez in November 2022.
Diversification activities increased 8.3%, a strong hotel revenue growth was partially offset by a decline in OMA Carga which was affected by a decline in revenues related to our ground import cargo. Total aeronautical and non-aeronautical revenues grew 27.9% to MXN3.2 billion in the quarter.
Construction revenues amounted to MXN719 million in the third quarter, an increase of 10% as a result of higher MDP investment execution. The cost of airport services and G&A expense increased 2.8% relative to the third quarter of last year, mainly due to an increase in minor maintenance, contracted service and basic services costs as a result of higher activity in our airports and inflationary effects.
Major maintenance provision was MXN95 million compared to MXN51 million in 2Q'22. OMA's third quarter adjusted EBITDA was MXN2.5 billion and the adjusted EBITDA margin was 79.4%. Our financing expense was MXN272 million, mainly due to a higher interest expense as a result of additional debt issuance and the higher cost of debt. Consolidated net income was MXN1.3 billion in the quarter, an increase of 28% versus 3Q'22.
Turning to our cash position. Cash generated from operating activities in the third quarter amounted to MXN1.3 billion and cash at the end of the quarter stood at MXN2 billion. On September 20th, we made the payment for the second installment of the ordinary dividend amounting to MXN500 million.
In accordance with the resolutions of our shareholder meetings in April. At the end of the quarter, total debt amounted to MXN10.7 billion and we ended the quarter with a healthy net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 1.0 times.
This concludes our prepared remarks. Now, please open the call for your questions.
Question-and-Answer Session
Operator
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Pablo Monsivais with Barclays. Please proceed with your question.
Pablo Monsivais
Hi. Good morning, Ricardo, Ruffo and Emmanuel. Thanks for taking my question. I have two questions. The first one is if you have done a quick calculation of what could be your discount rate under these new rules? And how does it compare to the previous discount rate on the previous rules? And the second question is about what the media has been published on the 10% decrease of the TUA. Can you please confirm whether decrease in the TUA is in any way related to the new tariff methodology? Thank you.
Ruffo Perez Pliego
Hi, Pablo. This is Ruffo. I will answer your first question. The components for the calculation of the discount rate used in the maximum tariff are now clearly stated and less subjective to interpretation. As you know, before the discount rate was based on the yield of Mexican government bonds plus a premium that was to be defined by the ministry and now the new basis establish clearly the variables to be used to determine the discount rate. Based on our calculations, we do not assess a significant impact on the discount rate as a result of the changes that were made in the new tariff basis.
Ricardo Duenas
And regarding your second part, Pablo, the discounts are totally unrelated from the new basis. They are unrelated to the aforementioned new regulatory guidelines. There are other agreements we have made with regulatory bodies. These agreements entail a general 10% extraordinary discount in real terms for our passenger charges on TUA starting November and December of '23, applicable to 10 of our airports. After application of discount this discount in '23, we expect to apply annual inflation adjustments on TUA. Other aeronautical tariffs in addition to TUA are not subject to the discounts. It is also important to mention that as a result of the discount package previously mentioned and unrelated to the changes in the Annex, we will have an MDP CapEx referral for 24 months. This MDP CapEx deferral amounts to 1.2 billion in the aggregate. And as a percentage of the original CapEx commitment represents about 25% in '24 and 13% in '25. These deferments do not compromise the operations, quality and safety standards of our airports.
Pablo Monsivais
Thank you very much. Very clear.
Ricardo Duenas
Welcome.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Guilherme Mendes with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question.
Guilherme Mendes
Good morning, Ricardo, Ruffo and Emmanuel. Thanks for taking my question. I have two as well. The first one is on margins and congrats on the very strong margins reported during the third quarter. The question is, how should we think about margins going forward, especially thinking in terms of the increase in the concession fees? And if it's that will be fully compensated on the aeronautical part of the business and the second question is regarding to the impact brought by the hurricane. If you can provide a little bit more color in terms of what should be the actual impact thinking on fourth quarter numbers and potentially early 2024 numbers as well maybe in terms of traffic or in terms of revenues impact? Thank you.
Ricardo Duenas
Sure. Thank you. For the hurricane, it's too early to assess the amount of the impact. What we can say is that the runway, the platform, the taxiways are in perfect state. The terminal has suffered some damages. However, it is operational. It's important to remind you that Acapulco represents only 3.4% of the total revenues of the company. We still have intermittent communication with Acapulco and we will know the impact of the damages in the next coming days. And regarding to margins, we expect the next year some -- around 4% impact as a result of the concession tax increase. However, this concession tax increase, the amount for '24 and '25 will be recognized as reference value for the next MDP negotiation in '26.
Guilherme Mendes
Thanks. Just one quick follow-up on the margins in addition to the concession fees. Do you expect any potential inflationary pressures that should alone drop your margins from the current 75, 76 levels. So in addition to this, is there any other impact that should bring margins down?
Ruffo Perez Pliego
I mean, we're still finalizing our budgets for next year. We'll have to, obviously, we're incorporating the increase in the concession tax, which will trim close to four percentage points of margin. And with respect to other inflationary pressures, I think, that they could be compensated with inflationary increases in our tariffs.
Guilherme Mendes
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Rodolfo Ramos with Bradesco BBI. Please proceed with your question.
Rodolfo Ramos
Thank you, Ricardo, Ruffo and Emmanuel for taking my question. Just a clarification on the previous one before I go into a couple of questions I have. So the hit you're expecting on the concession fee, you're expecting it to be reflected now in an upcoming MDP, but will it be a kind of a backward-looking adjustment or is it just going forward you'll be able to compensate that to the tariff. So just a quick follow-up first.
Ricardo Duenas
Just for the next two years, for the next two years, that amount will be recognized in the reference value for the next negotiation. And going forward, that will be reflected as an OpEx expense as it has been in the past.
Rodolfo Ramos
Okay. So it is backward looking. Okay. Thank you. And just another follow-up on the regulatory side. I mean perhaps it's difficult to say precisely. But just wanted to get a sense of how do you see these regulatory changes and particularly on the cap of excess surplus, this 3% cap. I'm not sure if you're able to quantify, just give us an idea of how much revenues or income this has generated over the last maybe 20 years, you've had the concession. So yes, that would be my first one. Any color there would be helpful?
Ricardo Duenas
I think the new basis what they are trying to establish is to have a more precise traffic vector when we negotiate tariffs with them. So starting in the negotiation of 2031, what will happen is there will be a look back for the previous five-year period. So in our case, it would be the '26 to 2030 period. And according to that to the traffic -- actually to the revenues from that five-year plan, everything that was collected in excess of 3% will be recognized will be carried forward for the reference value for the next negotiation. In the past just to give you some, in the past, four MDP negotiations, two of them, we have been above the negotiated traffic. Two times we have been below the negotiated traffic. So there's not necessarily certainty, we will always be above the negotiated traffic. And I think that this annex tries to keep more clarity and more transparency as to the traffic vector that we will negotiate on our tariff revisions.
Rodolfo Ramos
Perfect. Very clear. And just more on the business and just here second question. I don't know if you can share your traffic growth expectation for next year. I mean how -- and how much are you factoring in for an impact from the patent with the engine recall, Acapulco, of course, is still early, but just wanted to get a sense of how you're seeing things going into 2024?
Ricardo Duenas
I think for the rest of the year, Pablo, I think it's already incorporated the patent with the issue. We've been working closely with airlines also with the manufacturers. There's still not much clarity as to what will be the impact on the maintenance schedule of next year. So we're waiting to hear and what will be the impact there.
Rodolfo Ramos
Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Alberto Valerio with UBS. Please proceed with your question.
Alberto Valerio
Hi, Ricardo, Ruffo and Emmanuel. Hope everybody who works at OMA and Acapulco airport is fine. My question is related to the regulatory framework. It's hard for us to understand that we have a very few changes on the regulatory framework and put this together as the government's pitch of decreasing tariffs by 10% to 15%. If you have a similar CapEx similar discount rates and tariffs decreasing by 10% to 15%, can we assume that will be harder from now on to get maximum tariffs. It will be running close to 90% or is it something else? Thank you.
Ruffo Perez Pliego
So, yes, as you mentioned, there are little modifications to the tariffs. I think the main change is that clarity and takes away subjectivity before relative to the previous basis. And with respect to reaching maximum tariffs, I mean, I think it's going to be -- in the case of our existing MDP cycle, which, as you know, ends in 2025, we probably are going to be around 97% for this year and perhaps a similar percentage the following years. And for the next tariff review, I mean, based on the traffic vector, I mean, obviously, our goal would be to reach the 100% level in the following ordinary tariff review.
Alberto Valerio
I see. Thank you very much.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Bruno Amorim with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.
Bruno Amorim
Thank you for taking my question. Actually, I have two. The first one is a clarification on the reduction of TUA. I understood that you mentioned that you're going to lower TUA in 10 airports. And that would be offset by CapEx postponement. Is it fair to say that from an NPV perspective, you're looking to recover 100% of the reduction in TUA through this postponement in CapEx so that the value of the company will not be impaired and also in that same topic, if you lower the TUA, which, I guess, accounts for the majority of your revenue, and if you expect no changes to your tariffs in the MDP as a result of the ongoing discussions. This means that you are going to going forward run below the maximum tariff. So that's the first question. And the second question is actually I'd like to have your help to better understand the big picture around the new set of rules for the MDP. We are talking about higher concession fee, which, as you have argued, argues for higher tariffs, all else equal. But at the same time, it seems that the agenda of the government is to lower tariffs, not to increase tariffs. So we are talking about higher concession fee, lower tariffs the expiry date of the contracts have not changed and it will be good. You have some confirmation from your side, if you are not discussing to extend the concession. On the CapEx as well, the feedback from your peers is that the CapEx plan for the MDP will likely not change as a result of the new regulation. So if you have the same expiry date, same CapEx, more concession fee and you have lower tariffs in the next MDP. How come the returns on the regulated part of the business will not be lower? What are we missing here? Thank you very much.
Ricardo Duenas
Just to clarify, there's no extension of the concession has been discussed during this conversation. It's too early to say what will happen on the next negotiation. We're still two years away. Obviously, the concession tax will get factored into the reference value. There will be many variables that will be moving from now to the '26 negotiation and this concession tax will be just one of them as many variables are moving. For the next year, maximum tariff compliance, we're looking to -- it's still difficult to assess what will be the percentage compliance given that these TUA discounts could have some impact on traffic as well. Ruffo, do you want to add something?
Ruffo Perez Pliego
Well, in preparation for the next MDP cycle, obviously, we'll have to look into how to be more efficient and how to make our investments and to extract the most value out of the infrastructure that currently is in place to maximize its utilization before increasing the size of the terminals for investing in additional infrastructure. So that's something that we'll be working closely in the next couple of years as well.
Bruno Amorim
And if I may, just one follow-up question on the potential impact from the grounding of aircraft as a result of the issue with the engines from Pratt and Whitney even though you mentioned you are not ready to provide a forecast for traffic next year. Are we talking about negative traffic variation or can traffic still grow next year or directionally, what do you think can happen given the extent of the exposure of the two main low-cost carriers in the country? Any guidelines you could provide at this point in time?
Ricardo Duenas
It's -- as you said, it's difficult to assess right now what will be the impact with the Pratt and Whitney engine issue. But what I can tell you is we are expecting some small growth in the aero side of the business for next year.
Bruno Amorim
Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Juan Macedo with GBM. Please proceed with your question.
Juan Macedo
Hi. Thanks for taking my question and congrats on the results. My question is regarding the change in the MDP rate of return calculation from focus on equity returns towards WACC kind of calculation. Do you expect to change your capital structure given this change -- are you evaluating this or are you comfortable with the current structure?
Ricardo Duenas
We're still evaluating. We believe in the case of OMA, the impact of changing from return on equity to the WACC, it will be relatively small. Given that our amount of leverage at the moment is currently low -- it's currently low. So I believe we would expect to remain most in line with what we do have seen in the last couple of years.
Juan Macedo
All right. Very clear. Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Jay Singh with Citi. Please proceed with your question.
Jay Singh
Hey, thanks for answering my question. My first one is, would OMA ever consider investing in airports outside of Mexico?
Ricardo Duenas
We're always open to understanding -- to looking at opportunities. We don't have, at the moment, any concrete transaction in the pipeline, but we're always opening to -- for opportunities outside.
Jay Singh
Okay. And as a follow-up, besides the concession fee hike, until the end of 2025, do you guys see any other regulatory changes coming in?
Ricardo Duenas
We don't expect -- it was hard to say, but we don't expect any more changes from our conversations with the government, both from the treasury and the communication and transportation. They have mentioned that this has been the end of this modifications in the regulatory process.
Jay Singh
All right. Thanks so much.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Edson Murguia with SummaCapital. Please proceed with your question.
Edson Murguia
Hi. Good afternoon. Thank you for taking my question. I have only one related to cost of services this quarter increased 22%. So could you give us a little bit more color that what happened specifically? Thank you.
Ruffo Perez Pliego
So most of the increase is related to maintenance and utilities expense as we have increased areas in and expanded the terminals in the last year or so. And with the increase of volume of passengers, we have seen a greater growth in maintenance. Sometimes, there is some timing issues, but I mean, the accumulated expense for the nine months is reflective of the full -- I mean, if you annualize it would be reflective of the full year cost of maintenance.
Edson Murguia
Okay. Crystal clear. Thank you so much.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Gabriel Himelfarb with Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question. Gabriel your line is live.
Gabriel Himelfarb
Sorry. Can you hear me now?
Operator
Yes.
Gabriel Himelfarb
Hi. Thanks for the call. Just a quick follow-up question. Considering that the 10% decrease on TUA, the increase on the concession fee and the change in the methodology for the discount rate will be somehow offset or considered for the next MDP? And also the concession fee to my understanding, it also considers the non-regulated portion of the business. How will this portion or this impact will be offset by tariffs. Thank you. And also if you can clarify again the CapEx -- the CapEx movement for the next two years that will be resulting from this amendment, I mean, these regulatory changes? Thanks.
Ruffo Perez Pliego
Sure. So in the next review, certainly the increase in the concession tax and the rate of 9% will be incorporated into the calculation. Now the discount of the 10% TUA is something that only affects this period. So it will not be part of the variables to be used in the negotiation of the next tariff -- maximum tariff in 2026. Now with respect to the CapEx referral in the aggregate is MXN1.2 billion. So September 2023 purchasing power. And that's around MXN 890 million for 2024 and the remainder around MXN400 million for 2025 which represents roughly 25% of the regional CapEx commitment in 2024 and 13% in 2025.
Gabriel Himelfarb
Okay. And in the case of the concession fee it does affect the commercial or the non-regulated portion of the business? And how can -- will you be able to offset it only through increasing tariffs for the next MDP or is there any other leeway you can negotiate there?
Ruffo Perez Pliego
So -- and this hasn't changed from the previous basis. The formula for operational costs to determine the maximum tariff is just incorporates expenses related to the regulated side of the business. So, yes, commercial revenues would be subject to the increase in the TUA in the concession tax and we will have to see how to adjust our rates to recover some of this increase.
Ricardo Duenas
As it has always been the case.
Gabriel Himelfarb
Okay. Thank you very much.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Fernanda Recchia with BTG Pactual. Please proceed with your question.
Fernanda Recchia
Hello. Thank you for taking my question. Just a follow-up to understand a little bit further this TUA discount . This 10% extraordinary discount, it was given just to avoid you to surpass the maximum amount of the rate or it was to make the airfares more competitive just because you mentioned that you expect to reach 97% of maximum rate this year. So the end, you're just low.
Ricardo Duenas
Sorry. Could you repeat the first part? Could you repeat the first part, Fernanda? There was bad communication. Could you repeat it, please?
Fernanda Recchia
Yes. No, sure. I just wanted to understand the rationale of the government to apply this 10% of extraordinary discount. Was it just because if you don't apply it, you would probably surpass the maximum rate or it is a measure to incentivize to lower air tariffs? This is the first one. And then I make my second one.
Ricardo Duenas
I think it was hard to speak on the rehab, but I think that the rationale is trying to incentivize.
Fernanda Recchia
All right. No, because you mentioned that you're expecting to reach 97% of maximum rate. So in the end, it's just a 3% discount on your regulated revenues, right? Is it correct to make this assessment?
Ricardo Duenas
Yes, we will be slightly above 97%. The reason is this for this year, it will only be two months and that 97% accounts for the whole year.
Fernanda Recchia
Right. And second, still on this topic. We know that this is a nearly discount. Could you give us a sense of how much discount did you apply last year just for a reference for us to see if this 10% is in line with historical average?
Ruffo Perez Pliego
We, from time to time, enter into agreements for new route openings and other strategies with airlines. But we haven't had general discounts such as these for many years.
Fernanda Recchia
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Our next question comes from the line of Alan Macias with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question.
Alan Macias
Hi. Good morning and thank you for the call. I just have, I guess, two questions. And one clarification. The TUA represents what percentage of aeronautical revenue? And the second question would be on the expected higher CapEx for the Acapulco Airport and would that be incorporated into the new Master Development Program or before? Thank you
Ricardo Duenas
On the second part, we've been in very close coordination with the government for Acapulco. We still don't know the size of the damage. We know that the core part for operating the airport is okay. Obviously, terminal has suffered some damages. On our last conversation with the government, they are very open to work closely to how can we offset the impact from the hurricane in our CapEx. And for the TUA, it represents 89% of our aeronautical revenues.
Alan Macias
And just one more question. On the engine recall impact, any impact you have seen as of October during October? Thank you.
Ruffo Perez Pliego
Yes. We have seen that the scale sheets in databases such as OAT have been trending down over the last month or so. So, yes, we do believe that what is reflected right now in the system is already incorporating what's known of the recall of brand Whitney engines at least for the winter season.
Ricardo Duenas
We also -- we know that the airlines are taking a lot of measures to try to offset this impact. We know they are trying to extend leases, trying to extend the life of some of their other aircraft. So let's -- in the last couple -- in the next two months, we will have more clarity what will be the real impact next year.
Alan Macias
Thank you.
Operator
Our next question is a follow-up question from the line of Bruno Amorim with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your question.
Bruno Amorim
Yes. I just wanted to clarify one specific point. What leverage or what that specifically will be considered for the calculation of the cost of capital is the debt at the moment of the MDP discussion, is it a five-year average? And also to the extent that you might have corporate that or in the event that you invest abroad and you have that attached to it. Will they look just at the debt at the asset level in Mexico or will they look at OMA as a whole? Thank you very much.
Ruffo Perez Pliego
I think in the basis that we published there are some debt to capital ratios that are averages that includes other airport groups as well. And it's only that related to assets in Mexico and it excludes that is not funding operations in Mexico.
Operator
There are no further questions in the queue. I'd like to hand the call back to management for closing remarks.
Ricardo Duenas
Thank you all for participating today. Ruffo, Emmanuel and I are always available to answer your questions, and we hope to see you soon. Thank you and have a good day.
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. Thank you for your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.
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