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home / news releases / CA - Alimentation Couche-Tard Inc. (ANCUF) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript


CA - Alimentation Couche-Tard Inc. (ANCUF) Q3 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

2023-03-16 18:00:19 ET

Alimentation Couche-Tard Inc. (ANCUF)

Q3 2023 Earnings Conference Call

March 16, 2023 8:00 AM ET

Company Participants

Jean Philippe Lachance - Vice President, Investor Relations, and Treasury

Brian Hannasch - President and Chief Executive Officer

Claude Tessier - Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer

Conference Call Participants

Irene Nattel - RBC Capital Markets

Vishal Shreedhar - National Bank

George Doumet - Scotiabank

Mark Petrie - CIBC

Bonnie Herzog - Goldman Sachs

Chris Li - Desjardins

Peter Sklar - BMO Capital Markets

Karen Short - Credit Suisse

Michael Van Aelst - TD Securities

Martin Landry - Stifel

John Royall - JPMorgan

Bobby Griffin - Raymond James

Derek Dley - Canaccord Genuity

Presentation

Operator

Good morning. My name is Sylvie, and I will be your conference operator. [Foreign Language]

I will now introduce Mr. Jean-Philippe Lachance, Vice President, Investor Relations, and Treasury at Alimentation Couche-Tard. [Foreign Language]

Jean Philippe Lachance

English will follow. [Foreign Language]

Good morning. I would like to welcome everyone to this web conference presenting Alimentation Couche-Tard’s Financial Results for the Third Quarter of Fiscal Year 2023. All lines will be kept on mute to prevent any background noise. After the presentation, we will answer questions from analysts asked live during the web conference. We would like to remind everyone that this webcast presentation will be available on our website for a 90-day period.

Also, please remember that some of the issues discussed during this webcast might be forward-looking statements, which are provided by the corporation with its usual caveats. These caveats or risks and uncertainties are outlined in our financial reporting.

Therefore, our future results could differ from the information discussed today. Our financial results will be presented by Mr. Brian Hannasch, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Claude Tessier, Chief Financial Officer. Brian, you may begin your conference.

Brian Hannasch

Thank you, Jean Philippe, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for this presentation of our third quarter 2023 results. We're pleased to report solid results this quarter and I want to begin by sincerely thanking our great team members around the world for their hard work and focus on our customers.

As the global markets face persistently high inflationary conditions, particularly in Europe where energy prices has spiked materially in the quarter, we've remained focused and committed to delivering a strong and consistent value to our customers and maintain cost discipline inside of our operations. In convenience across the network, we had strong double-digit growth in our food program, as well as in our private label items. Both offering a high quality at a great value.

Throughout the quarter, we continue to be pleased with the resilience of our customers and through our localized pricing efforts, and ongoing fuel promotions, we're providing them with further benefits. Vulnerability results are still impacted by stay at home work and higher prices. We continue to generate very healthy fuel margins offsetting the softness in volumes.

Before I turn to the results, I want to go over the announcement from earlier this morning of our proposed acquisition of certain European assets from TotalEnergies. We submitted a firm and irrevocable offer and then entered into exclusive negotiations to acquire 100% of TotalEnergies’ retail assets in Germany and in Netherlands, as well as a 60% controlling interest in the Belgium and Luxembourg companies. The proposed acquisition would include 2,193 sites with 1,195 of those being located in Germany, 566 in Belgium, 387 in Netherlands, and 45 in Luxembourg. These are high-quality locations with very strong market positions in each country and in close proximity to our current footprint in Europe.

Following my presentation, Claude will cover in more detail the financing for this proposed offer, which is also detailed in the presentation on this proposed acquisition available on our website. Our next step is to enter into a consultation process involving employee representative bodies in the four countries outlined, as well as the approval of the relevant competition authorities. We're beginning these meetings in the upcoming days and it's expected that the proposed transaction will be completed before the end of the calendar year 2023.

For some time, we've been seeking a sizable acquisition. This one will grow our European network by close to 80%, bringing value to our shareholders and being a strong geographic and strategic fit. We're truly excited to bring these assets from TotalEnergy into the Couche-Tard family. Having a deep respect for the operations, management, and employees in the four countries involved, as well as a great confidence of the benefit of having them join forces with our leading global retail operations.

By growing into Europe's largest market, Germany and other European markets near our successful Scandinavian, Irish, Polish, and Baltic networks, we believe we can generate material synergies, and create additional growth opportunities in some of Europe's strongest economies.

While adding TotalEnergies’ assets will be game changing growth for our network, I also want to highlight other exciting recent announcements. First, we closed the acquisition of True Blue Car Wash, which currently has 65 car wash locations conveniently located in our core markets in high traffic areas in Arizona, Texas, Illinois, and Indiana and with a strong pipeline of future new industry sites planned and under development. We see this acquisition as a natural extension of our current car wash business of more than 2,500 locations and a part of our commitment to lead and innovate in a fast-growing segment that meet our customers’ mobility needs.

Adding True Blue's high quality car wash sites has already presented compelling opportunities for cross promotion and loyalty building, which began immediately under close and 32 days after close, we're very pleased with the early results. We've also entered into a binding agreement for the acquisition of the fuel and convenience retail sites from Big Red stores. These are modern high quality, well located sites across the State of Arkansas, aligning with our growth ambitions in that area.

As they are predominantly large format sites, we will have ample space to enhance our fresh food programs and product assortment and services in these sites. Finally, following the fulfillment of our obligations with the Competition Bureau in Canada, we're now able to bring the benefits of the Wilson acquisition to our Canadian market.

Now let me turn to our results for the quarter, beginning in convenience. Compared to same quarter last year, same-store merchandise revenues increased 4.8% in United States, 3.5% in Europe, and 2.3% in Canada, driven by strong results in our food programs, as well as by our diversified offering in beverage categories and partly offset by continued softness in cigarette revenues from both illicit competition in Canada and just overall softness in the category across the industry.

Across the network, our Fresh Food Fast Program continues to grow with over 4,500 locations opened globally. Sales were up 23% on a same-store basis and profits are accelerating with the customers and our store team members strongly engaging in our products.

Our $5 pizza and fresh baked cookie programs are in high demand and as we introduce new items such as our griddle cake sandwiches, we're getting very positive feedback from our customers and we're seeing it in sales. For dispense beverage, we've made improvements that will enhance our customer experience and drive sales. In the U.S., we launched a national coffee rebrand initiative to better communicate the quality of our coffee and bring coffee house field to our stores. We've also launched a free coffee day in the U.S. with over 450,000 cups of coffee given away that day.

Mountain Dew Purple Thunder sales continue to drive growth in our Polar Pop and now exceeded 11 million cups year-to-date. In Packaged beverage, our private brand drinks continues to provide accretive double-digit growth in our highly competitive products at great values to our consumers. In age-restricted global alcohol sales had a strong performance with European sales leading the way, up strong single-digits. Our upgraded wine wall displays are exceeding expectations, resulting in increased unit movement, as well as the launch of our new private label brand wine, which is now selling in 2,400 locations in the United States. Lottery has also performed well during the quarter driven by large U.S. jackpots, as well as a well-executed holiday selling season.

Across the network, we continue to see inflationary pressure on our packaged goods and supply costs and we've been working in collaboration with our vendors on costs and investments to help deliver value back to our customers. In our global merchandise supply chain, we still have had some isolated challenges. But overall, our in-stock and on-time delivery rates are materially improved from previous quarters.

Turning to our data driven work. In pricing, we now had that running and all be used in Europe and North America and we're evolving our tools to be more responsive to the inflationary market conditions we've seen over the past quarters. In promotions, one of the final preparatory stage of piloting our approach to integrate price and promotion analytics together, which will allow us to simultaneously optimize both regular and promotional items that are frequently bought in multiples by our customers.

And in the assortment side, we are now live across all of our major categories in North America with a focus on identifying strong performing products, getting them shelves -- onto our shelves quickly, while eliminating those slow-moving items.

Moving to our fuel business. Same-store road transportation volumes decreased 2.3% in the U.S. by 1.2% in Europe and other regions, and increased by 0.5% in Canada. Overall demand remained unfavorable impacted by high prices, driven by the higher crude prices, compared with corresponding quarter in 2022, as well as heavy rebranding activity on our part in the quarter. As I mentioned earlier, we continue to generate very healthy fuel margins offsetting the decline [Technical Difficulty] these volumes.

In our Circle K fuel rebrand work, we completed over 300 locations during the quarter and now have over 3,800 Circle K fuel branded sites in the U.S. While this is disruptive in the short-term, it's absolutely a positive for both our consumers and our profitability over the long-term. We continue this quarter with local fuel promotion days in the U.S. to help alleviate some of the cost pressures at the pump including over 70 events with a range of $0.25 to $0.40 per gallon price drops during the prime driving hours. Here, we are seeing significant lifts in volume, as well as on the valuable engagement in brand building in our store offerings ended the fourth quarter.

Our EV fast charging network now consists of 1,380 charging installs covering more than 300 locations. Following the opening of the biggest truck charging site in the Nordics this October, we've opened four more truck charging sites in Sweden, and 15 more will open in the coming year. To-date, this fiscal year, we had over 1 million charging transactions on Circle K chargers in Europe, which is double the amount from the same time last year. This increase is driven both by network expansion and continued growth utilization in our chargers.

In our innovation work, we've made great progress in smart checkout, which is aimed at providing our customers with the quickest and easiest checkout experience. We hit a major deployment milestone recently with over 2,000 smart checkouts now live in the U.S. and we have approximately 120 smart checkouts up live in Europe. We believe this is a materially faster and easier transaction than traditional self-checkouts and will lead to higher customer satisfaction over time. And the Net Promoter Scores certainly support that so far into this journey. In a proprietary pay by plate program in Europe, we've passed 1.5 million transactions, where we offer the service.

And now before I turn it over to Claude, I want to know significant recognition for our sustainability work over the quarter, including being recognized as a 2023 Top Rated ESG performer by Sustainalytics, as well as MC -- MSCI ESG. In addition, we will award the Bronze EcoVadis Medal for sustainability efforts in Europe. And in Canada, Women in Governance honored us with the Bronze-level Parity Certificate -- Certification for our progress towards gender parity in our workplace.

I'll pause there and let Claude take you through more of our third quarter financial results. Claude?

Claude Tessier

Thank you, Brian. Ladies and gentlemen, good morning. Before we turn to our third quarter results, I would like to offer more details on the proposed transaction of certain European assets from TotalEnergies. The purchase price of EUR2.1 billion to be paid in cash and on a debt free cash free basis will be financed using available cash, existing credit facilities, our U.S. commercial paper program and the new term loan. This purchase price correspond to an easy to EBITDA multiple of approximately 8 times, including leases, which amount to $515 million, which is an attractive and accretive multiple for our shareholders.

For calendar 2022, EBITDA for these entities to be carved out from Total was approximately EUR500 million or approximately EUR455 million, excluding the non-controlling interest. This proposed transaction will have a modest impact on our pro forma leverage ratio, as we estimate that our main leverage ratio on a pro forma basis would reach approximately 2.1 times as opposed to approximately 1.5 times at the end of the third quarter of fiscal 2023, still below our comfort zone of 2.25 times. Synergies to be realized over a three-year period are estimated at EUR120 million, mainly coming from our top line growth and merchandise uplift.

Back to our quarterly results. For the third quarter of fiscal 2023, we are happy to report net earnings of $737.4 million or $0.73 per share on a diluted basis. Excluding certain items described in more detail in our MD&A, adjusted net earnings were approximately $741 million or $0.74 per share on a diluted basis for the third quarter of fiscal 2023, compared with $746 million or $0.70 per share on a diluted basis for the third quarter of fiscal 2022, an increase of approximately 5.7% in the adjusted diluted earnings per share.

Our results for the third quarter of fiscal 2023 reflect the effective execution of our cost optimization initiatives as well as our disciplined approach to deploy capital. On the cost side, our efforts have helped to mitigate the impacts from higher inflation across our network and we were pleased with the improvement we observed as the quarter progressed. On capital allocation, we have repurchased almost 27 million shares during the third quarter and almost 62 million shares over the past four quarters.

I will now go over some key figures for the quarter. For more details, please refer to our MD&A available on our website. During the third quarter, excluding the net impact from foreign currency translation, merchandise and service revenues increased by approximately $279 million or 5.8%. This increase is primarily attributable to organic growth and to the contribution from acquisitions, which amounted to approximately $41 million.

Excluding the net impact from foreign currency translation, merchandise and service gross profit increased by approximately $86 million or 5.3%. This is primarily due to organic growth. Our gross margins decreased by 0.4% in the U.S. to 33.2% impacted by the promotional efforts to support our Fresh Food Fast program. In Europe and other regions, our gross margins decreased by 0.5% to 37.3% and in Canada, it increased by 0.7% to 32.3% both impacted by a change in product mix.

Moving on to the fuel side of our business. In the third quarter of fiscal 2023, our road transportation fuel gross margin was $0.4685 per gallon in the United States, an increase of $0.0722 per gallon. In Canada, it was CAD0.1252 per liter, an increase of CAD0.74 per liter. In Europe and other regions, our road transportation fuel volume was $0.0801 per liter, a decrease of $0.0282 per liter driven by the impact of the translation of our foreign currency operations into U.S. dollars, as well as the volatility of the European fuel markets. Fuel margins remain healthy throughout our network, due to the favorable market conditions and our continuous efforts to optimize our supply chain.

Now looking at SG&A. For the third quarter of fiscal 2023, normalized operating expenses increased by 7.8% year-over-year. This is mainly driven by inflationary pressures notably on energy costs and in our European operations, costs from rising minimum wages, and increased usage of Software-as-a-Service solution combined with the impact of change in accounting policy, as well as by incremental investments in our stores to support our strategic initiatives, while being partly offset by the impact of lower pressure in the employment market.

Despite the challenging market conditions, we have continued to deploy strategic efforts in order to mitigate the impact of higher inflation level and continued pressure on wages, which is demonstrated by our normalized growth of expense that was in line with the average inflation observed throughout our network.

Excluding specific items described in more details in our MD&A, the adjusted EBITDA of nearly $1.5 billion for the third quarter of fiscal 2023, decreased by $2.6 million or 0.2%, compared with the corresponding quarter of fiscal 2022, mainly due to the translation of our foreign currency operations into U.S. dollars, which had a net negative impact of approximately $43 million as dollars -- as well as higher operation expenses, partly offset by higher road transportation fuel gross profit and organic growth in our convenience store operation. To be noted, the translation of our foreign currency operations in the U.S. dollars had a negative impact of $0.03 on the earnings per share for this quarter.

From a tax perspective now. The income tax rate for the third quarter of fiscal 2023 was 21.9%, compared with 21.3% for the corresponding period of fiscal 2022. The increase mainly stems from the impact of different mix in our earnings across the various jurisdictions in which we operate. As of January 29, 2023, our return on equity remains strong at 23.3% and our return on capital employed stood at 16.6%, both figures higher sequentially, compared to the second quarter.

During the quarter, we continued to generate strong free cash flows and our leverage ratio stood at 1.46, despite having repurchased $1.2 billion during the quarter under our NCIB. Subsequent to the end of the quarter, shares were repurchased to the automatic securities purchase plan for an amount of $373 million. We also had a strong balance sheet liquidity with $1.1 billion in cash and an additional $2.5 billion available through our main credit facilities.

Turning to the dividend. The Board of Directors declared yesterday a dividend of CAD0.14 per share for the third quarter of fiscal 2023 to shareholders on record as at March 23, 2023 and approved its payment effective April 6, 2023.

With that, I thank you all for your attention and turn the call back over to Brian.

Brian Hannasch

Thank you, Claude. I want to finish my remarks where I began by thanking our customers and shareholders for their continued support of the business, especially our team members for their hard work and focus on our customers. As we all know the past three years has not been easy ones from a global pandemic to labor shortages to historic inflationary conditions. Yet our team members remain highly engaged with a one team spirit and we continue to play to win in our industry.

In closing, we feel good about our core business and the trends we're seeing both in the store and at the four core both during the quarter and in recent weeks and our teams are excited about the value creation opportunities we have in front of us with the integration of our recently announced transactions.

Finally, our team is very excited to welcome TotalEnergies into the Couche-Tard family. I believe we're one of the best retailers in Europe and I'm confident that combining our companies in Europe will create great value for our customers and for our shareholders.

With that, I'll turn it over to the operator to answer analysts’ questions.

Question-and-Answer Session

Operator

Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] And the first question will be from Irene Nattel at RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Irene Nattel

Thanks, and good morning, everyone. Congratulations on the transaction. Can you walk us through, please what it is in particular about the Total network that you are acquiring, that was compelling to you? How you came about to the valuation that you paid? And how we should think about the evolution of the assets and the areas -- the key areas in which you see upside from the transaction?

Brian Hannasch

I had questions in there, Irene. Thanks for the congratulations by the way. We've been working on this for approaching two years. As we said in our strategy, we’ve been -- we intend to be opportunistic in Europe and be very selective. This is a network that has really strong positions in each of the four countries that we're entering and also leave room for growth in all four countries.

In particularly Germany, by far the largest economy in Europe. So excited about those opportunities and we just feel, again these are winning assets, they're doing a lot of things right. There's a 1,000 car washers in the network and I look at our offer that we have in Europe. I think it's one of the best in the industry and combining those two brands and concepts, we think we can have a winning formula in these four countries. So excited about that piece of it. In terms of valuation, I’ll let Claude comment on kind of how we thought about that.

Claude Tessier

In terms of valuation, you know that we were going to pay 8 times multiple on that. So the devaluation is very attractive to us, and yes, I actually get after synergies it brings a valuation to a level that we like in terms of the transaction.

Irene Nattel

Thanks. Could you talk about where you see in particular the areas of potential synergies and notably in light of the fuel supply agreement with Total?

Brian Hannasch

Yes. I mean the fuel agreement has a lot of commercial flexibility in it, but Total is also very well positioned to be a very competitive supplier for this geography. So we think it's a natural fit and a very strong brand. In terms of synergies, as we talked about, the top line, we think is very immaterial. We think they're doing a lot right on the fuel side, we think there is more to do. On the EV side, we think there is certainly more to do inside the store, and then there's more to come on the other areas.

We'd like to believe that the scale we now have in Europe will yield significant procurement synergies, but again some of those just really hasn't been quantified yet and obviously we're in the middle of a process with the work councils. We've been pleased over the years that we've grown our employment in Europe as we've grown and -- but we'll continue to look to optimize the business and look forward to the next step is really engaging with the team members and walking them into the family.

Irene Nattel

That's great, thanks. I'll hand it off to someone else to continue.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Mark Petrie at CIBC World Markets. Please go ahead. Mark, could you unmute your line, please? Hello?

Brian Hannasch

Hello, operator. Can we go to the next?

Operator

Yes, certainly we will go to Vishal Shreedhar at National Bank. Please go ahead, Vishal. Your line is open.

Vishal Shreedhar

Hi, can you hear me?

Brian Hannasch

Yes.

Vishal Shreedhar

Hello? Okay, great. I think you may have already suggested this. But if we look at the actual synergy number as a percentage of EBITDA, it looks lower than your prior deals of this size, and I know you're still going through the details, but is that because you haven't really reflected in your synergies, the fuel procurement opportunity, which is typically a quick win for you guys? And if so, how should we think about the fuel procurement opportunity?

Brian Hannasch

I think fuel procurement, I don't think initially it will be as big as what we would have in some other files given that we've got a strong commitment to a very strong brand and strong partner. And I'll emphasize that we're partnering here with Total, they're maintaining some ownership in both Belgium and Luxembourg, and that's a signal that we hope it's very early part of our partnership, and we continue to grow and do other things together.

In terms of synergies overall again, we're starting by communicating that top line opportunities and I believe procurement opportunities are material as we get into costs. How we operate the sites, things like that. Continue to peel back the layers over the coming months as we work to get regulatory approval and work with work councils on the approval of the project and we'll continue to refine that estimate.

Vishal Shreedhar

Okay, thanks. And I'll get back in the queue.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from George Doumet at Scotiabank. Please go ahead.

George Doumet

Yes. Good morning, Brian, and Claude. Congratulations on the acquisition. I want to talk a little bit about the merchandise part piece of TotalEnergies. Can you talk a little bit about how that's performing versus kind of our operations in Europe and maybe talk about the opportunities to potentially improve that maybe some more detail? I think you mentioned food, but some more detail on how we can improve that on a go forward basis? Thanks.

Brian Hannasch

Great question. I'll go back to 10-years ago with Statoil. The devil's in the details. All the way from how do we procure our category management processes, assortment, emphasis on certain categories versus others, promotional intensity. This is all we do. TotalEnergies is obviously an integrated oil company. They do a lot of things and they do a lot of things very well. But we believe the focus that we have, we believe our European model that we have both on the food and merchandise side that we've evolved over the last decade will resonate in these markets. They are adjacent. When you think about where we're at, we're in Denmark, which is right next to Germany.

So culturally, we think we've got a decent understanding of what's working. We spent a lot of time in the competition and understand where they are winning and where they're not. And so it's going to be really a comprehensive overview and overhaul of the stores, George, and we've got some time and I think the flexibility to pilot some things with TotalEnergies before the closing. So we're optimistic we can hit the ground running. Operator, are we still there?

Operator

Yes. Mr. Doumet, do you have any further questions?

George Doumet

No, that's it from me. Thanks.

Brian Hannasch

Okay. Thanks, George.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Mark Petrie at CIBC. Please go ahead.

Mark Petrie

Yes, good morning. I wanted to actually ask about the U.S. merchandise business and specifically on the margin side. Obviously, there's a lot of different moving parts here with regards to the sales mix and price and promo effectiveness, trade down, and fresh food. But I'm hoping you could help us sort of understand the impact of those different moving parts and how to think about the gross margin performance in the quarter and then your outlook for the next few quarters?

Brian Hannasch

All right. Thanks, Mark. I'll take a shot at that. Actually pleased with merchandise margin percentage in general. Obviously, some heavy inflationary pressure during the quarter. When we look category-by-category, we think we're very effective at keeping up and exceeding the cost increases. So when you just back away and strip out food, food and beverage, coffee specifically, our margins are actually sequentially up a bit versus prior quarter. Pretty significant impact from the food category and it's really two things. One is, as I talked about in my remarks, pretty heavy promotional activity around coffee that combined with our Sip and Save subscription has grown units, but depressed the percent margin. The bigger impact is on our Fresh Food Fast program. We introduced another 350 sites in the quarter and have grown very rapidly in the middle of COVID.

So we're kind of building a plane, while we're flying it and as COVID has kind of opened up now we've really shifted the pretty heavy promotional activities, sampling promotions and I mentioned opening new outlets. And so you put all that together and where our margins are, say while our sales are actually exceeding plan and as I said, up 23% for the quarter, year-over-year margins are short of where we -- our plans are, and certainly short of where our proforma is.

But I have a lot of confidence. Our Northern Tier business has been relatively the same program for a decade and we very much can see the profitability we get out of that piece of the business and out of the top performing sites. So, our focus right now continues to be on growing sales while continuing to put the right tools and disciplines in place to control shrink and other things over time. So, again, not where we want to be on a pro forma basis, but very pleased with the top line and confident the bottom-line will follow.

Claude Tessier

And on the trade down in March, if I may add. We continue to see a good performance from our private label program. So private label program is up over 25%. So all our SKUs are performing very well in our stores. So that is bringing good sales in our stores.

Mark Petrie

Okay. I appreciate the comments and congratulations on the deal as well [Indiscernible].

Brian Hannasch

Thank you.

Claude Tessier

Thank you, Mark.

Operator

Next question will be from Bonnie Herzog at Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Bonnie Herzog

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. I have a question on fuel margins. I guess, I was hoping you could help us understand the cadence of your fuel margins throughout the quarter. Possibly, on a month-by-month basis? And then along those lines, how have things trended so far this quarter? In general, any color you can provide on your outlook for fuel margins and whether you guys think they're starting to normalize would be helpful? Thanks.

Brian Hannasch

Hi, Bonnie. For the quarter, I think the U.S. and Canada continued to perform very well, in terms of fuel margins. We have weakness in Europe for the quarter driven by really two things. We have about $0.03 a liter impact just on currency. As Claude mentioned up and down the P&L that just had a material impact in the quarter, but again that's transitory. The other was a sharp decline in crude during the quarter. Crude went from $92.60 to $79.70. We have a longer supply chain in Europe. We have terminal operations, we have compulsory stock inventories. So the impact of the devaluation or reduced value those inventories is more material in Europe and shows up. But if you look at on comp basis, margins continued to be strong in Europe and we continue to see that post the quarter. The market remains very disciplined. So, now, I couldn't be more pleased with the trends we're seeing really.

Claude Tessier

And maybe to follow-up on your question in the U.S. The trends in the U.S. have been during the quarter have been similar to previous quarters, but we've seen during the quarter, a period of six weeks. And I think everyone noticed that the Opus was a bit down during a certain period of time. We noticed that also in our results. But in terms of -- and margins have to come back here to the previous levels after that short period. And we know and we continue to think and to share that we feel that the U.S. margins are level are influenced by the SG&A and the cost pressures that the channel is experiencing everywhere. So, we're still on that notion for the U.S. margins in the future.

Bonnie Herzog

And then just to clarify, because that was helpful you think going forward, as you know, there continues to be pressure on gallons you feel confident that the margin will be more than enough to offset that on an ongoing or forward basis? Thanks.

Brian Hannasch

I think, Bonnie in any short-term basis, margins can be volatile, have been forever, but if you've charted the last decade, you'd see a persistent increase in unit margins and I think that's -- that pressure is accelerated. When you look at the -- it take maxed out and look at the bottom quartile of the industry in terms of smaller same stores, smaller box sales, lower volume, they've had the same inflationary pressures around credit card fees, energy, and labor that the industry has. Their costs -- their breakeven needs have gone up materially. And so our goal is to continue to widen our gap versus the industry. That's our focus and we believe that -- I can't say that this margin last forever, but it's not going back to where it was, not for any long period of time.

Bonnie Herzog

Okay. Definitely makes sense. Thank you so much.

Operator

Next question will be from Chris Li at Desjardins. Please go ahead.

Chris Li

Hey, good morning, guys. Yes, congrats on the deal. Brian, I think you already touched on this already, but I was hoping if you can maybe elaborate more on what makes these countries attractive and I think it might be helpful you begin it maybe answer along the lines of Total's competitive positioning, energy transition within the countries and also the regulatory environments? Thank you.

Brian Hannasch

Yes, so just in terms of regulatory, we're not in these markets. So from a competition bureau standpoint, we think it's not an issue. Each country has scale. It's hard to do that across a couple of countries. You can go in with 100, 200 sites, but we're having -- we're at number one, number two in a couple of markets, number four in Germany, behind two really solid competitors. Good transparent markets with governments that aren't picking winners and losers. Culturally, we don't think it's a big stretch from the other markets that we deal in the Europe.

So we think we can understand the customers. We've spent a lot of time in the markets, a lot of time with the competition, a lot of time with our CPG partners, understanding their business and the countries just feel it's a good fit. Geographically, a good fit in terms of just people using our sites and the network that is well positioned to compete and to win in many ways, especially when you combine the expertise we have running the sites with some of the things that Total does very, very well. So we feel real good about the opportunity.

Chris Li

Okay, that's helpful. Thanks a lot, and best of luck.

Brian Hannasch

Thank you.

Operator

Next question will be from Peter Sklar at BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Peter Sklar

Good morning. Sill on Total. Brian, Claude, can you benchmark what a typical Total corporate site? How it would benchmark against say a typical corporate site you would have in U.S. or Canada in terms of square footage, fuel volumes, sales in the box, merchandise mix, et cetera?

Brian Hannasch

I'll do it high level. We need to understand that these are not our assets today. So we'll be a little careful, but high level they would average higher fuel volumes than our European business. They would have a deeper car wash penetration; we're pushing almost 1,000 car washers in this network which all cars get dirty. They are on the same journey. We are in terms of installing EV for mobility, both in liquid and on EV.

The box is probably tend to be a little more variable. I guess some big motorway sites with QSRs et cetera and there some smaller ones, but on average I guess there are a bit smaller but sales inside the box materially lower, probably with the exception of Luxembourg. I would say they're 30%, 40% lower across the board than what we would experienced. Inside that is significantly lower food penetration.

Food is the one that we've grown that to almost 25% of the business, revenue wise in our European business, and it will be significantly lower here. So across all categories, we see opportunities to combine what we do well with what they do well and increased synergies for the customer.

Peter Sklar

No, that's good. Thank you.

Brian Hannasch

Yes. Thank you.

Operator

Next question will be from Karen Short at Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

Karen Short

Hi, thanks very much. I wanted to just ask one on Total. Will you be planning on rebranding to the Circle K banner and then, I did want to just ask on the relationship between sales and EBITDA? You mentioned promotions obviously as an impact too. While EBIT margins or EBIT growth I guess overall, but does that relationship definitely depth in terms of total sales growth versus the EBIT growth? So is that just a function of the higher promos and sampling this quarter, or is that something that we may expect in the coming quarters as more of a like flattish EBIT would topline being around 8%-ish like you had this quarter?

Brian Hannasch

Your question on total revenue or inside the store when you talk about an EBIT ratio just to be clear in answering your question?

Karen Short

No. I was just asking about total sales versus total EBIT growth?

Brian Hannasch

Yes. I mean the total EBIT growth, again, as Claude said, heavily impacted by currency this year or this quarter. But when you look at our merchandise gross profit, it grew by 5.3% ex-FX if that's a word and then same on fuel. Fuel grew on a post-FX basis -- pre-FX basis, almost 10%. So we feel good about the gross profit growth. I'm cautious when you look at EBIT as a percent of revenue, just given the volatility in fuel prices. That can really skew the ratio. So we feel good even despite the inflationary pressures that our top line gross profit continues to grow at a healthy level.

Karen Short

Okay. And the rebranding?

Brian Hannasch

Rebranding to be determined. We have a lot of spec for all the brands we buy. We've been very clear, Circle K is our global brand. So we'll make the right decision at the right time. If we did anything, I think it would more likely show up on the store, as opposed to the forecourt in the near term, but again over the coming months, we'll firm up those plans.

Karen Short

Okay. Thanks very much.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Michael Van Aelst at TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Michael Van Aelst

Yes. Hi. Can I just start with a quick clarification on the synergy number? Did you say that the merchandise procurement synergies are not part of that synergy number you gave us so far?

Claude Tessier

No, they're part of it, Michael.

Brian Hannasch

I'd clarify. I think we -- the 120 really focuses on topline growth. I think there is more work to do, Michael, on operating expenses and on procurement opportunities. So more to come there and as I said earlier in the remarks, we'll refine those. But I don't think we have any significant quantum of procurement opportunities in that number yet.

Michael Van Aelst

Okay, thank you. And then, so your operating expense was up close to 8% which is in the quarter on a normalized basis, similar to what it was in the first half of the year. Earlier in the year, you guys have been talking about it trending lower. I'd like slow the growth slowing as we got into the back half of the year. So I'm curious where the pressures increase to can cause it to continue to rise, and if you could explain that Software-as-a-Service accounting change and how much that impacted?

Claude Tessier

So, Michael, in terms of how operating expenses changed during the quarter. I think we still feel the inflationary pressure. But we feel also, if you remember, I was talking about three buckets previously in other calls and on the first bucket, which was wage increase, we're starting to see a bit of easing on that side. So the market conditions are better and the stores are feeling better about their -- the ability to fulfill the shifts and they see a bit less pressure on the employment side, but that's is easing in our mind, but what is been hoping is inflation. So we've -- during the quarter, we've had significant inflation in Europe and also in U.S. and there -- that's our expenses and electricity is still a big factor. It was a big factor in the beginning of the quarter, but what we're seeing at the end of the quarter, we're seeing an easing on utility and electricity prices in Europe, which is relieving a bit the pressure. The beginning of the quarter was a bit difficult on that side.

Finally, so that bucket is taking a bit more importance in our 7.8% increase. In terms of the rest, so the 25% that's left from the wage inflation that's essentially you mentioned SaaS, that's part of that increase is probably one-third of that bucket that's coming from SaaS solution that we're putting in our stores or SaaS accounting change that are getting into the equation. So this is all it's break down. So I would say 25% of the increase is coming from wages instead of 33% previously. Inflation is probably 50% of the increase and the rest 25% of the increase. So that the strategic and also the SaaS -- the SaaS cost into our equation. We continue to put like a significant program in place to mitigate that. I think we -- and we were expanding on our initiatives cost saving in our stores and also in our functional groups and had over cost.

Brian Hannasch

Michael, I'd add one thing that also I think was fairly material in the quarter. We have a very disciplined approach to how we allocate labor to our sites. This quarter we had nice traffic trends. But our hour usage actually outstripped what we would normally expect and that's just a reality in a year ago, we couldn't find people. We were short-staffed a year ago. Today, we're back at normal staffing levels and I think that's the right thing from a customer service standpoint and to support long-term sales growth, but that's certainly had an impact versus prior year when we were probably short six hours or seven hours of store versus what we wanted to model. We couldn't fine people. So that's transitory. That'll be kind of a one-time event, will cycle that. But we're in a much better place, but it does show up in a way in the labor side.

Michael Van Aelst

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Martin Landry at Stifel. Please go ahead.

Martin Landry

Hi, good morning and congrats on your acquisition. I was wondering if you can talk a little bit about the historical growth profile of the network, you're acquiring in terms of revenues and profitability over the last 10-years? And just Claude, maybe what do you expect in terms of EPS accretion for the transaction?

Brian Hannasch

I'll take the first piece. Yes, we didn't get 10-years of history. But I can at least reference the last three or four. It have been pretty consistent -- very consistent really. When I look at how that business is compared to our business over that period, I think fuel performance has been relatively similar to our experience, but we've grown, ACT has grown inside merch sales. Probably 200 point basis faster clip over that period of time, but it's a very stable network. These are obviously matured markets. So yeah, we feel good about the stability and then we feel good that we understand what we're getting into.

Claude Tessier

And Martin, I think in terms of EPS accretion. I think we could think about mid-single digits for the acquisition. Just looking at the this year EBITDA number, it gives you a bit of a perspective there.

Martin Landry

Okay. All right, perfect. Thank you.

Brian Hannasch

Thank you.

Operator

Next question will be from John Royall at JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

John Royall

Hey guys, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. So in terms of capital allocation, your pro forma balance sheet is still in very good shape post this deal and below your target level which I think Claude mentioned. So how should we think about the buyback going forward? Can you continue the program or do you view it is more prudent to kind of pullback and de-lever for a period of time post-acquisition?

Brian Hannasch

Yes. John, I think, nothing is going to change in terms of what we've been saying to you for capital allocation and how we are going to use our buybacks. So it's still going to be if we're under 2.25, we’re going to make sure that we have an NCIB in place. And if there is any opportunity for us to buy shares at a price that we feel is compelling for us and we're going to do so. So in silver 2.25 times that we said that we would be really pulling back on our NCIB. So that transaction is going to pull our leverage to 2.1 times and so we're going to still have NCIB in place and use it, if it is the right time to use it.

Claude Tessier

I would add, 2.1, our balance sheet is still in great shape with a lot of firepower left. So we're still in the M&A business and looking for the right opportunities and I think that's been our best use of capital for many decades and will continue to look hard.

Brian Hannasch

Yes. These are like still $9 billion to $10 billion on dry powder on our balance sheet.

John Royall

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Next question will be from Bobby Griffin at Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Bobby Griffin

Good morning, everybody. Thank you for taking my questions. I guess just two questions from me. One now with your potentially becoming a bigger piece of the overall business, is just for our knowledge, are the structural drivers of fuel margins that have driven them higher here in the U.S. the same as they are in Europe? And then secondly, from me, on the food program in the U.S. Is the long-term opportunity once this program gets the scale for the program, they're not only be dollar accretive, but also margin accretive or is the underlying promotional environment required for that category different than what you and I would have thought about two or three years ago?

Brian Hannasch

I take the second piece of that first. If we look at our Northern Tier business, the food program, which again mirrors what we're rolling out elsewhere in North America is absolutely accretive to our margin on a percentage basis, probably by almost 10 points over where we run in aggregate. So that journey will continue, and we're confident we can get a very similar performance across the rest of U.S. over time. Claude, you want to take the other piece?

Claude Tessier

Yes. In terms of structural driver for their margins in Europe, and if you look at our business in Europe, it's been impacted a bit of same way that in US and North American business where. So still increase in costs, it's may be not coming from the same places, it's more than costs and store cost driven than wage driven in Europe, but still the cost pressure that are in Europe and also the traffic at store is in line with what we're seeing in, in North America. So there is still pressure on the margins in Europe to be at elevated level compared to pre-COVID.

Brian Hannasch

Yes. Add to that. I agree with everything Claude said just pointed out, typically the average site in Europe is lower volume than what we see in North America. So to the extent that we've got similar inflationary pressures as we experienced in rest of the world. The CPL impact action needs to be a bit bigger just because the denominator smaller. So we absolutely believe that's consistent.

Bobby Griffin

Thank you. Best of luck going forward.

Brian Hannasch

Thank you.

Operator

Next question will be from Derek Dley at Canaccord Genuity. Please go ahead.

Derek Dley

Yes, hi, thanks. And I'm just wondering is there -- is there an opportunity to convert any of the dealer owned sites at Total to corporate owned? And then from a systems perspective across the TE business, are they well integrated run on one system, is that compatible with what you have currently in Europe or would you have to implement something to bring that?

Brian Hannasch

I take the first piece of that. I think our reputation is to be a CoCo model, or company op model, but we operate a dealer model, both in Canada and I believe all of our European countries. So that's not a concept that's foreign to us. You'd have a hard time going into one of our stores in Scandinavia and talking the difference between a Kodo store and a CoCo store and that makes us feel good about this business as well. We understand that there's thousand dealer partners out there that we're looking forward to meeting and we'll assess the right channel decisions over time based on where we see the opportunities.

Claude Tessier

In terms of system, like they're on this solid platform, so in the ERP platform, we are on the ERP platform also in Europe. So and there's a TSA in place so we're going to look at, it's early days, still we're going to look at the transition of the systems and see which is going to be the system of choice at the end of that transition, but obviously, we're going to -- we're going to want to make sure that we can provide all the tools that we've developed in our networks, all across in the customer offer also in Europe, and we're going to take the decisions around the system to make sure that we're going to be able to operate that and also maintain the good customer program that they have on their side also, so the combination of both I think it's going to be making a winning combination for the customer, and those decisions are going to be taken in the next few months.

Brian Hannasch

And just a reminder, this is really a partnership in many ways with Total as Claude and his team structure the TSA. It's got a lot of flexibility and the ability for us to extend this out for significant time if we need it. So there is no fire sale here when we've got a rush and do something that risk the customer experience. So we feel good about that -- about that journey.

Derek Dley

Okay, terrific. Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. Next is a follow-up from Michael Van Aelst at TD Securities. Please go ahead.

Michael Van Aelst

My question was covered. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And at this time we have no further questions. Please proceed with closing remarks.

Jean Philippe Lachance

Thank you, operator. Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Claude. That covers all the questions for today's call. Thank you all for joining us. We wish you a great day and look forward to discussing our fourth quarter 2023 results in June. [Foreign Language]

Brian Hannasch

Thanks, everyone and good day.

Claude Tessier

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you, [Foreign Language]. Ladies and gentlemen, this does indeed conclude your conference call for today. Once again, thank you for attending. And at this time, we do ask that you please disconnect your line.

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